I'm tired of Putin and the rest of Russia...

Russia don't want peace... The pride of it's leaders will be the sole reason of future chaos...

 

Vote for McCain then. He'll start a war and we'll all die.

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Russia is the last hope for saving the world from US dominance and the spread of freedom. Please read ST12's posts, thanks.

 

Hey that's my posts silly

 

I agree. Vladimir Putin is far from being an angel, but as long as they pose a threat to the Western Anglo/American Illuminati, I say let them all duke it out. While they're at it, let China in on the action to. As long as no one group is in total control of the planet, we all have a chance. By the way, when I say "duke it out," I'm not referring to an all out war.

 

So it's Russia against the NWO, huh? How come Russia hasn't joined the NWO? I thought they were all powerful and able to control everything? So you're saying that Russia is the only noble power left; that they were able to resist the temptation of joining the NWO?

I wonder if the USSR hadn't collapsed in the first place if the NWO would have been invented and promulgated by conspiracy theorists. The collapse of the USSR left a large void that perhaps needed to be filled in the hearts and minds of the suspicious and vulnerable.

 

Yes, Russia is opposed to the NWO, anyone who follows world events and understands the elite can clearly see this. The entire situation with South Ossetia was a move made against Russia by the Illuminati controlled West, the West pushed Georgia into attacking and killing Russian nationals in order to cause Russia to invade.

Also, the Bush administration is pushing for a defense shield to be put in Eastern Europe, and though they claim it is for Iran, any idiot who understands basic geography can see that it is designed for Russia. The simple explanation is that Russia is not playing ball, the Illuminati controlled West wants to incorporate Russia into their system, but because Russia isn't some third world country unable to defend itself, and has more nukes than the U.S., the West can't really bully Russia around, at least not directly.

And no, I never said Russia was "noble." The country today has problems, the Oligarchs and the Red Mafia control much of the entire country, and many Russians today struggle while a handful have become billionaires. But at the same time, Putin has done a lot for the Russian people, and I have to give it to him, the man is a nationalist, both he and Medvedev are nationalists. The way I see it, anyone who is a nationalist is a friend of mine, because he doesn't want a one world government. Even Hugo Chavez is a good guy in my book, he opposes Western imperialism.

Because Russia has 12,000+ nukes and a really large army. That is why. The Illuminati controlled U.S. and other European powers can't bully Russia like they do third world Latin American, African, and Asian countries. Those countries who have nukes make the rules, it is as simple as that. The United States respects any country that has nukes, look how it treats Pakistan, India, and other nuclear powers in comparison to non-nuclear countries. Now you know the U.S. doesn't want Iran to get a nuke. The Russian president and Putin are nationalists, they don't want globalism. That is what the issue is about.

By the way, I'm not saying Putin or Chavez or Medvedev are good guys, most presidents today are corrupt, but as the old saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

 

Hey tesla; I've been meaning to ask you something. Are you talking about the Illuminati of the enlightenment era? Aren't they a fictitious group? Or are you talking about some other group? Could you 'enlighten' me?

 

The problem is that your enemies are imaginary.

He's talking about the secret group that controls the world, except for Russia.

 

I'm asking - isn't that secret group a completely fictitious one? I mean, I can understand the necessity for that kind of a group during the days when the Church was ruthless towards anyone who spoke of logic, reason, and knowledge. But now?

 

Russia's minerals are the real threat to US.
Want to know why? Hint if Russia decides to sell them for rubles gues what's gonna happen to US?
Whant more details? Read this:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1073139

 

BS, how can you say such a lie and believe in it?

If Russia was as imperialistic as US is she would have bribed politicians and governments around the world just like US is doing.

Get your facts straight man. Or you risk looking just like bogart and homebiz.

 

You are correct, Russia just wants to push its agenda and bad ideologies on the world. Russia needs a new leader like Obama that can lead and control and look out for the lower class.

 

No this group is real, there are different names for them. Some call them the NWO, others call them globalists, still some call them the international bankers. There is nothing "fictional" about this group. Those of us who read and do enough research know they exist. They are like the Italian Mafia, which is another society which is secretive. Is there anyone here who debates the existence of the Italian or Red Mafia, of so, why debate the existence of the Illuminati, which is way more powerful.

For more info on the Illuminati check out these links:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory). The Bilderberg Group is also sometimes called the Illuminati:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

The Illuminati is just as real as the Russian Mafia, the Italian Mafia, and the Triads. It is just as real, it is a secret society. The Illuminati may also be known as The Superclass, which David Rothkoph talks about in his book called Super Class:http://www.amazon.com/Superclass-Gl...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224575389&sr=8-1

They aren't imaginary, and you can't prove they don't exist. You should read Rothkoph's book called Superclass, which I linked to above. He gave a speech at Middlebury college recently and said that there "are about 6,000 men, mostly of European descent, who run the globe. Many of them are billionaires, and they have no loyalty to any particular nation state." So many books have been written on the subject that it is ridiculous, if you read you know they are not fictional.

In any event, this group doesn't have 100% control over the planet. They want Russia to join them, but Russia has other plans, Henry Kissinger recently flew to Russia to have an "emergency" meeting with Putin, and left the meeting pissed when Putin shot him down. There is a hidden war being waged between the U.S. and Russia, but it is really one secret society versus another. No one in this forum can prove this wrong.

Here is what the Washington Post said about Rothkoph's book:

In Superclass, Rothkopf, a former managing director of Kissinger Associates and an international trade official in the Clinton Administration, has identified roughly 6,000 individuals who have "the ability to regularly influence the lives of millions of people in multiple countries worldwide." They are the "superclass" of the 21st century, spreading across borders in an ever thickening web, with a growing allegiance, Rothkopf argues, to each other rather than to any particular nation.

Read the last sentence carefully. The statement is clear, these guys are the major players that run the world, they make decisions which effect the lives of millions, and they don't play "nice."

 

The link you've provided says that the declaration of emergency in India during Indira Gandhi's rule was a manipulative move in accordance with a largescale conspiracy. I, for one, don't buy it. The move was a result of Indira's greed. It's as simple as that. I'm still not convinced of the existence of Illuminati. But then, I'm not convinced of the existence of God either. So, I think I'm cynical by nature.

 

hahaha))) sad but true.


tesla, great post, man. I think the same. The only thing I dont like in Russia is corruption, as to acting on international arena, Im all with Putin. He is a smart guy.

 

Nationalists, LMAO! More like national socialists!!!

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

You mean like poisoning Viktor Yushchenko?

Keep drinking the kool-aid you rube.

 

I think Russia's flexing its' military muscles should not be a problem to the rest of the world. Doesn't the US do it every sinlge day?

 

Oh yeah, and arming Syria is good...