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Im out of sandbox in a month

Discussion in 'SEO' started by TheWebJunkie, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. #1
    Tell me if im wrong but i thought the google sandbox didnt rank sites untill they are at least 6 months old.

    I started babe-forum.com in march of this year, the domain was regged a month before.

    Keyword: babe forum
    Position 306

    I know its not the best posistion but it shows im outta sandbox.

    How did this happen?
     
    TheWebJunkie, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  2. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #2
    Why would that mean you're out?
     
    T0PS3O, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  3. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #3
    I was gonna ask the same question...

    I don't think it means anything to be honest buddy.

    When you get your top 5 ranking then I'd celebrate. Not 'till then. :)
     
    SEbasic, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  4. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #4
    I've got a few (long phrase) #1's on Google within a month after launching a site. Don't see any signs of sandbox - just rank crap because I have no links yet.

    You're only IN the box when you rank lower than you would have if the site were sa 3 years old with all the rest being the same (link age then ranging from 3 years as well).

    Doesn't seem to me as if you're in or even out. In only when you have as many links as the number 1 to 10 for that pharse.
     
    T0PS3O, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  5. ashiezai

    ashiezai Peon

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    #5
    ya .. considering the keyword in a quite competitive one .. i may suggest may be the site is just having a new-site bonus, and will be going down to nowhere later.. (but i hope this is not the case) :)

    I have a #1 kw that is not competitive at all .. i got it within 15 days :) althought i ranked high for this kw .. im still no where to be found on other highly-competitive kw .. that suggest that im still in the sandbox :)
     
    ashiezai, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  6. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #6
    The sandbox would be more like what happened to one site of mine. I built a site and it got to #2 at Google after a few days. It was there for almost 3 weeks, then vanished. Couldn't be found even in the first 1,000 results.

    And it is still lost in cyberspace, although it is ranked at second page at MSN.
     
    fryman, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member Premium Member

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    #7
    Yep, the sandbox is more of a penalty than a ban. Otherwise you woudn't rank for www yourdomain com.
     
    MattUK, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  8. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #8
    So come on then guys...

    It seems as though we all have different definitions of what the sandbox looks like from our end.

    What in your experience is it that are the tell tale signs of a site being stuck in the sandbox.

    Is it Titles and Description missing from pages?
    Is is an inability for a site to rank for it's own name?
    Is it a complete disapearance from the search results?

    Come on guys, what is it that you think is the sandbox...

    This should be interesting.
    I expect a lot of opinions on this one. :)
     
    SEbasic, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  9. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #9
    This is mine:

    So if Site a:

    new
    200 IBLs of a fixed set of anchor text
    200 pages fixed content

    Doesn't rank well

    VS

    Site b:

    3 years old
    200 IBLs of the same fixed set of anchor text but links older than A's
    200 pages of same fixed content

    Does rank well

    Then A is IN the sandbox.

    Could go hand in hand with funny site: results - page counts - descriptions etc. but not necessarily.
     
    T0PS3O, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  10. Weirfire

    Weirfire Language Translation Company

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    #10
    Who says the sandbox really exists? ;)
     
    Weirfire, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  11. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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  12. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #12
    Read their patent filed on March 30th. It has "Sandbox" written all over it. Apart from actually naming it that way. Document age they call it with a document being a site, not a page.

    PS not suggesting everything from their patents is implemented...
     
    T0PS3O, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  13. Weirfire

    Weirfire Language Translation Company

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    #13
    I'm just stirring up trouble :D

    I just know that some people argue black and blue that the sandbox doesnt exist. :)
     
    Weirfire, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  14. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member Premium Member

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    I agree with Tops, all sites rank for some keywords, even if it's www sitename com, so it's not the complete absence from the SERPS.
     
    MattUK, Apr 12, 2005 IP
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    SEbasic Peon

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    #15
    Read the patient I posted and T0PS mentioned (Second link)...

    It'd be an enlightening read for most.
     
    SEbasic, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  16. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #16
    People who say the sandbox doesn't exist tend to be

    a) Have one old ass site

    b) Don't do any link building

    c) are retards
     
    ferret77, Apr 12, 2005 IP
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  17. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #17
    Agreed.

    (Although I may have use some different terminology ;))
     
    SEbasic, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  18. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #18
    I don't think ranking 306 means anything. I have ranked #1 with google on a new domain for obscure keywords within a week. If you were ranking in the top 10 for a highly competitive keyword, then that is a different story.
     
    mjewel, Apr 12, 2005 IP
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    WhatiFind offline

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    #19
    I think your site is in the 'sandbox', I've found this site: http://roberttaft.com/
    Here you can find your Google search engine result page position without sandbox (Blood Bloop Hilltop) filters.
    Don't know of this site really works but it gives different results.
     
    WhatiFind, Apr 12, 2005 IP
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    #20
    I have a few top 30 and about 2 top 100 with a new site, I think "competition" is also a factor
     
    kalius, Apr 12, 2005 IP