There's no doubt that MSN is easier to get rankings in (for new sites) than Google...the traffic flow isn't nearly as good from MSN either, but I'll take any traffic I can get to my sites. I figure if I can't have any one particular site getting lots of traffic from MSN, then I'll just keep making more and try to cash in through some volume. Hopefully a few of them will eventually start getting some good results from Google...then I'll focus in on the ones that start to do well in Google. Then again, maybe someday I'll get sick of this whole SEO thing and just rely on PPC campaigns.