I'm $500 Dollars in the hole =(

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by Jorje, Feb 27, 2008.

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    Hi, I recently bought the keystrokes4cash guide, I followed it's instructions carefully and did alot of trafficking research, signed up for PayDotCom and found the programs I could be an affiliate for (K4C recommended it). I paid for Targeted Opt-In e-mails, PPC Yahoo Ads, I blogged n pinged, I made a squidoo page, everything you can think of. :( I've spent $500 so far and not a thing, what am I doing wrong? That's $500 that I don't have.
     
    Jorje, Feb 27, 2008 IP
  2. aolaybar

    aolaybar Peon

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    #2
    leave it in the hole... learning from this, and much research.
     
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  3. thsadmin

    thsadmin Notable Member

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    #3
    Before you dive into the water, test it's depth or your chances of getting injured are extremely high.
     
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  4. chris265

    chris265 Peon

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    Some products are easy to sell others are not. Try making blog with different products and see what makes sales then try marketing with paid per click
     
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    gsv13 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    All the best info is given in forums and blogs. Well to be exact it is not just given there ... you have to research and suck it out from the garbage.
    Money making guides are mostly(not all) junk!! Never trust them 100%!
     
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    your first mistake was buying one of those guides/ebooks. there is so much free information available on the web just do a search and learn from forums. finally, just find something you enjoy and create an affiliate website for it and add Adsense and other products. if you really like the site and keep on building it income will start to come in on it's own.
     
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  7. lavista4u

    lavista4u Member

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    Its ok...you were fooled..accept your mistake and move on...NEVER BUY any guides or books, when veterans are giving u free info here...thank god that..it only took you 500 dollars to realize your mistake....500 dollars and more will come back to you...don't give up
     
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  8. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    This is known as sunk costs, just ignore and go on with life, hopefully for the wiser.
     
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  9. traffic4sale

    traffic4sale Banned

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    just move on mate and make more research in order for you to succeed, i know you can.
     
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    hotbacon Well-Known Member

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    Try free zip or email offers from Copeac and other CPA networks.
    PayDotCom needs experience :)
     
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  11. discodollars

    discodollars Peon

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    Completely true! It could have been worse, but take this as an experience. Granted, it is $500, but you learned from this. Keep on plugging away and make sure to do your research!
     
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  12. lslars31

    lslars31 Peon

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    Agreed with everyone else. Don't give up, this business takes persistence! Cut your losses and learn from your mistakes.

    Rhetorical Question time:
    Think about what you may have done wrong to lose that $. Did you get any conversions? If so where did they come from and why did they convert? etc...

    It takes time, you will get there eventually.

    Hope This helps,
    Nick
     
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  13. fragin_bastich

    fragin_bastich Guest

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    PAY ATTENTION!!

    This game is all about making more than you lose...not about NOT losing! The fact is, everybody here that has ever had the gahl to make any real money has lost plenty first, but they have developed another word for failure...it's called "testing". Just learn to fail faster, so you can move on...keep your chin up.

    Here's the thing, all you need to make money is A) Something to sell, and B) Someone to sell it to, right? Not so easy is it...But I'm going to help you, and if you do your homework you will benefit more from this than any book will ever tell you.

    Go to your search engine of choice and start searching for anything and everything you like...(I do this all the time on multiple searches)

    Now go through all the top results and start reverse engineering what they do (including the sponsered listings) paying particular attention to how/where/when they monitize their sites, and how it integrates with the overall layout and content. Click their ads, see where they go, pay attention to the link and what media network is serving it. How is there site set up, what sort of content do they have, that sort of thing.

    Check the backwords links, sitemap, alexy, keycompete (if you have subscription) etc, etc. Basically take a real good look at what they DO...no what they SAY...follow the money.

    Do this a few dozen to a few hundred times and you will have a clear set of patterns in your mind about what actually works, how they are getting traffic, and how they are converting that traffic into cold hard cash.

    Learn how the thing works, THEN how to work it! Forget buying emails, and buying ads in such, all those do is put you in front of a LARGER audience, but the fact is if you can't make SOME money on your own that is NOT the solution.

    Now get going, you've got A LOT of work to do...

    P.S.

    Broaden your horizens from trying to sell ebooks from paydotcom, you'll just end up frustrated with that. How are other people monotizing their sites? How many people do you think are REALLY buying ebooks?
     
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  14. hexinator

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    Maybe you have to work more with landing pages. And don't jump right away into paid marketing. Try marketing your products for free. Find a product that even your friends would be interested in. Email them and see how they react. You might get your first sale from them without even spending a dime on marketing.
    After you have made somee sales, you see which product converts best, then you might go with paid marketing to speed things up.
    Do some research on how SEM works. You have many offers and coupons that give you almost free credit. Recently I saw a thread about adtoll, they give $20 in free advertising just for signing up with them. MSN gives $75 [my sig], although it requires a $5 activation fee. And there are many other coupons you can use like Google $50, Looksmart $50, Bidvertiser $25, just search and you shall find them. ;)

    And stay away from email marketing, most of the emails aren't even opted-in, and the rest might be paid to read emails. Even if they are opt-in, people will just ignore it.
     
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    normaly you should try every free promotion first to test the market and know which way is the best promoion way. try to spend your money as less as possible for maximum profit. Hope you can get back up soon.
     
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  16. ErnestHemingway

    ErnestHemingway Well-Known Member

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    #16
    DP got tons of info for free
    why would you pay for it lol
    and there is no such way to get rich right away
    everything works with time
    i wish it was so easy to start making money right away...
     
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    msshanya2006 Guest

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    I just got the Key4strokes and i cannot understand what to do. i thought i was buying filling out ads can someone please help me they will not contact me back
     
    msshanya2006, Mar 10, 2008 IP
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    One of the best advice so far...listen and do it over and over again!
     
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    What did you wind up spending $500 on? PPC?
    And how did you wind up letting it go that far?
    I'd probably wind up cutting my losses at $75 in the hole.
     
    wantmomoney, Mar 10, 2008 IP
  20. aditya_sfs

    aditya_sfs Peon

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    When you choose a produce, make some LPs some keywords and promote it on some PPC or Other methods and it doesn't work out. Then it means something wrong with your product choice , your LP design, your keywords , your promotional methods etc. Not all promotional methods work with all kinds of products. You need to spot out the right combination. Which affiliate program and which promotion method will work best. And then test it small ways before investing some serious money. Even I dont throw 500$ simply out without making sure of the stuff. I first spend some 20 -30$ on PPC and see the conversions. WHich keywords work and which dont, tweak landing pages, remove shit keywords and test again and again many times. Finally when i feel it is perfect and giving a 150 - 200% ROI. Then throw big money into it :D
     
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