Illegal Immigration effects House Representation/Presidential Elections

But I did Avi8tr. The National Research Council. Please re-read.

Also, while I cannot disagree with "the veracity and integrity" of the witnesses of the former session, I can certainly see where their bias lies and both allow for it and note in their own responses their P.O.V..

Look, in the former session the consensus of the invitees is: "Most economists agree that illegal immigrants impose a net fiscal cost on American Government and American taxpayers."

The perspective is on the impact not the contribution. You do see this, yes? Their P.O.V. is on the effect of those who CANNOT become legal, in any way, even as guest workers, not what CONTRIBUTION they may have if they could.

For instance: "The majority of illegal immigrants do not have health insurance."

Yes, of course, as illegal aliens this is the case. It would NOT be the case under a sane guest/worker program.

yes, but what percentage of that incarceration was simply becasue the folks in question actually ARE illegal, and how would that quantify that number were that status no longer applicable.

This is really wanting ones cake and to eat it. For right now these same illegal aliens using false indentifiers, are paying into the Soc Sec system without hope of ever seeing any benefit thereof. Which is one reason I have always suspected has had something to do with this dragging of the feet by our politicians. Some have suggested this is the answer to the statement brought up in your session, to whit:

Finally, as one of your own invitees noted:

The question again becomes why not make them legal since there is obviously a need and a market for them? They are here for socio-economic reasons on their end, and because we need them on ours.

 

This is the only thing I don't get in your post. This is true only if we give them insurance, how many are really going to go and get insurance just because they are legal?

My guess is that they would just be putting it on the state tab as already. OR you are wanting social medicine?
If they are here for the jobs that everyone keeps mentioning ie. food service, landscaping, hotel maid, etc... then they are most likely not going to get it from their employer.


Maybe I just don't understand something here???

 

In Spain this is the first problem that spaniards got! Massive incoming without control is what is happening in Spain.

Regards.

 

Debunked, you ask:

I believe any who have it available to them through their jobs will indeed seek it. IN the city I live in the culinary union is very strong. Maids, clerks, cooks, servers, food handlers, food delivery drivers... a vast majority of these positions are indeed eligible for medical insurance.

For those that are not, well, this is an entirely different concern. A blight upon our society. Our health policy is a national disgrace. Not only is medicine in our country over-priced (the pharmaceutical lobbies and cronies in Washington won't even allow us to go buy the same medicine, produced in AMERICA no less, cheaper in other countries) it is inaccessible by an incredibly large amount of workers and their families. This is NOT because of the illegal alien. This is because of shameful profit mongering companies, their lobbies in Washington, and over-priced services.

 

Spain's got more problems than that. Their fair-weather spineless displays of friendship are another.

But that being said, Spain is a perfect example of precisely why I am for immigration, even, in this case, if it is illegal.

Have you ever seen those Spanish women???

I wish every single one of them lived over here!

 

It usually costs a billion dollars to go through FDA red tape...virtually eliminating most competitors in the drug market.

I do not see it as one problem,...I see many. Mostly it's how our government restricts choses and ultimately favors a select few. I'm not for nationalized health care, but what we have now isn't exactly free-market healthcare.

 

Rick, we are in agreement here.