Ignorance Now, Can be Eternally Deadly, if you don't know...

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  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #41
    sperm is just to make a point clear. is jesus and god genetically the same?
     
    pizzaman, Jul 19, 2009 IP
  2. Nehemiah

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    SPIRITUALLY (The real reality): As GOD, YES!!!
    Physically (What we perceive with one or more of our five sense, and understand with our finite/carnal mind): As Man, No! JESUS CHRIST is just THE ONE who proceeded from "the bosom of the Father"; notice the word "bosom", as opposed to "bowels" as humans are.
    GOD IS GOD;
    THE WORD of GOD [WHO became JESUS CHRIST] IS GOD;
    THE POWER of GOD [THE HOLY SPIRIT/GHOST] IS GOD.​
     
    Nehemiah, Jul 19, 2009 IP
  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #43
    Just a few:

    Who is the father of Joseph?
    MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

    LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.


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    Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
    MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

    MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

    JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.


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    Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
    JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

    JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

    For complete list you can look here:

    Bible Contradictions
     
    gworld, Jul 19, 2009 IP
  4. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Joseph's father was Jacob. . .and shows JESUS' legal right, and lineage "the Throne of David", and a seed of Abraham; Mary's father was Eli ("Heli"). . .and shows JESUS' biological right to "the Throne of David".
    Try reading the entire genealogy account of both Matthew and Luke; then you should note that in Matthew, David's son is listed as Solomon, while in Luke, David other son Nathan (an older brother of Solomon) is listed.

    So then, why is Joseph mentioned in Luke's genealogical account? Simple, as a part of Jewish culture, The Jewish people don't really care about a woman lineage; and since Mary was betrothed to Joseph, and Luke wanted to show JESUS' biological relationship to Mary, back to David the King, back to Abraham, back to Adam, he did so by mentioning Heli's son-in-law, Joseph.

    All of the above. . .as told by 3 different writers from there perspective points of view, within the context of what they each determined to convey to their audiences.

    As GOD, JESUS CHRIST [THE WORD of GOD] (see John 1:1-4,14) is "equal to" GOD; while as [THE SON of] Man, JESUS CHRIST has GOD, our FATHER, being "greater" than He and/or us.
    JESUS CHRIST is both 100% GOD, and 100% Man; HE had/has to be both, because ONLY GOD can Satisfy GOD, and Man[kind] was the one messed up.
    As The Perfect Man, JESUS CHRIST paid our sin debt, without having any sins of HIS own to pay for, or sins of HIS own that would allow death to hold HIM, and as GOD, HE Satisfied (and very "well" Pleased) all the demands of THE HOLY GOD.

    Been there, done that. There are NO contradictions there. . .just someone's misconception and misunderstanding of THE WHOLE STORY.
     
    Nehemiah, Jul 20, 2009 IP