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If you were Google, how do you deal with 3-way links?

Discussion in 'Google' started by GerBot, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    Rather that ask the direct question I'm going to phrase this slightly differently.

    If you were Google, how would you detect 3-way link exchanges?


    examples of bad answers:
    Stop them counting.
    Remove their PR
    :p
    SEMrush
     
    GerBot, Dec 21, 2009 IP
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  2. rosszero

    rosszero Peon

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    A couple of the most obvious ways to detect these kinds of links are to see if the IP of their servers differ, and also the registration information of the domain names.
     
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  3. GerBot

    GerBot Peon

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    true, but then Google already does this to detect one-way links that are owned by the same person.

    Traditionally 3 ways links are on 3 separate servers with separate owners.
     
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  4. FREE BET

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    its very difficult to detect sometimes....
     
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  5. GerBot

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    what times (other than the afore mentioned IP/server option) is it east to detect?
     
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    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    #6
    3 way links are hard to detect sometimes. even link exchanges cannot be detected at times. some link linchages do still count but too much link exchanges get discounted. if only a handful of 3 way link exchanges are done, it is nearly impossible for google or anyone to detect that. i dont think anyone can do any better than what google is already doing
     
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  7. GerBot

    GerBot Peon

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    um, so what would you do?
     
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    sunilmamo Well-Known Member

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    Well google knows about this thing as it is discussed all over internet through public forums and it is also dealing with them.

    If i were to do then i would have reduced TrustRank of a particular website.
     
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  9. GerBot

    GerBot Peon

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    How would you know which site to reduce the 'trust rank' for?
    How do you detect the sites?

     
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    #10
    If IP's and networks are different, they can't really be detected, only suspected.
     
    a1051, Dec 21, 2009 IP
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    praetserge Notable Member

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    True, it's virtually impossible to detect three way link exchanges.
    Imagine I buy a PR3+ domain, then get about 10 three way links and then sell a few more links to maintain the domain. Do it 10 times and you get 100 links plus money to pay for the domains and if they are hosted on different IPs and stuff noone will be able to detect it.

    You need to make sure you have plenty of links from other sources as well though for it to work.

    As to the OP, what can you do if you cannot detect them?
     
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    czc61307659 Peon

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    #12
    Some tools can detect this. Some website can do it too!
     
    czc61307659, Dec 21, 2009 IP
  13. hsvyas

    hsvyas Peon

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    Can you pls tell which website provides this type of facility?
     
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    its hard to detect, its one of the best way to get one way link for your main site.
     
    Excel 8, Dec 21, 2009 IP
  15. tattoos

    tattoos Prominent Member

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    #15
    If I were Google, I would use a combination of Probables, eigenvectors and norms to detect them (like the current Google do).

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    How would I deal with them?
    The same way the current Google do.

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    Cheers
    James
     
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  16. GerBot

    GerBot Peon

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    #16

    Can you please expalin this, how the tools work or what they are?

    Else this does not really help does it.
     
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  17. GerBot

    GerBot Peon

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    Thanks James.

    Can you explain the theory behind this?

    Or are you trying to point out that it is complicated?

     
    GerBot, Dec 22, 2009 IP
  18. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    They are pretty hard to detect if done wisely and they are done for good.
    If I were Google, I'd just stopped thinking about that.
     
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  19. rosszero

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    @GerBot One of the general concepts of it are that similar traits are analysed between all the sites that link to the same destination and these traits are converted into a probability into whether they were created to artificially boost the recipricating site's page rank.

    These rules are very refined, but there's still a small possibility that it could mistake a genuine, organic set of links. It easily detects things like micro sites being used for linking purposes for instance.
     
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    tattoos Prominent Member

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    #20
    Yes, I was trying to point out its complicated and that its complicated by design. rosszero pretty much nailed it.

    Cheers
    James
     
    tattoos, Dec 22, 2009 IP