If you leave Islam you have to die

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  1. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #61

    They can never kill all the Christians there's too many of us.

    They didn't protect them they charged them the tax.
     
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  2. imad

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    #62
    don't jump from one topic to another, without answering the previous topic first, they were launching crusaders, so what worse may would have happened to Muslims then? , yet they did not destroy these places, know what is the topic, before you answer please, there have been even Christians fighting with Muslims against crusaders, go read history

    now either answer me or say I do not know, you said old testament, does that mean that they should not be followed knowing that Jesus said:

    "I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17
     
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  3. Codythebest

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    #63
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  4. imad

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    #64
    see there are Christians in Algeria, which is good, little while ago, there was supposed to be none, cos Muslims "Kill all infidels"

    did the topic now change to "religious freedom in Islamic countries" if so, I have some interesting info about it, but hopefully somebody will answer my questions first before we move to next.
     
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  5. Codythebest

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    #65
    I know. Did you see that? They are being killed now...
    Oh well...Religions are a good excuse for violence...
     
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  6. imad

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    #66
    you call this being killed in Algeria? then read the articles in the links you posted

    "Several mosques have also been closed under the same provision. "

    still waiting for answers......
     
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  7. Codythebest

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    #67
    Yeah, listening the french radio today. Some killed now...Pfff...not good...
    When it's not muslims killing christians or jews, it's christians killing muslims...
    This will never stop..
     
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  8. imad

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    #68
    and when its neither this or that?

    anyway, you said your point, thanks, when they publish that radio story online please post a link,

    my questions are still open to Ckrismoney and Debunked, hopefully they will see them and answer.
     
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  9. sturat.mitchel

    sturat.mitchel Banned

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    #69
    Yes, I also sound this but have not seen any incident.
     
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  10. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #70
    Answering your questions seem to be a waste of time.

    Every time I answer you just ask another one, that you know the answer to or, one that doesn't have anything to do with the debate.
    I'm under the impression that, when you ask a question you think we must answer you no matter how ridiculous the question is.

    Your wrong!

    Find your own answers.

    This is what I stated islam has done to none muslims:

    Tears of Jihad
    Monday, March 3, 2008

    These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.

    Africa
    Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
    120 million Africans

    Christians
    The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:
    60 million Christians

    Hindus
    Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
    80 million Hindus

    Buddhists
    Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam); everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.]
    10 million Buddhists

    Jews
    Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.

    This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.

    That's more then all the wars put together.
     
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  11. imad

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    #71
    my question was simple, you said these are old testament, but they were not all old testament, besides, you say "old testament" as they are not related to you, even though before you been quoting from the old testament as there is no tomorrow.
     
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  12. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #72

    The old testament gives us all a moral structure for what is right or wrong.

    But what are you asking?
     
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    #73
    Do you believe the old testament is the word of God?
     
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  14. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #74

    Yes I do.
    Why?
     
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  15. imad

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    #75

    this is what I was asking, whether the verses I quoted are wrong or not, thanks for answering.
     
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    #76
    Islam is God's Religion Not Joke Please Don't Challenge God's Rules.
     
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    #77
    If god has a problem with it tell him to come see me.... Also, if you see Santa or the tooth fairy, Tell them i'm looking for them. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Codythebest

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    #78
    Oh shoot...You just missed Santa...He just passed by the parkway here, in his pink Ferrari. But god, I didn't see him for a while...Is he taking care of the 25,000 infants who will die of malnutrition tomorrow or , again, he couldn't care less?
     
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  19. N_F_S

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    #79
    what is all this about muslims/islam threads over here? Who cares? Do you care? Well, good luck fixing it then!
     
    N_F_S, Jun 17, 2008 IP