If Ron Paul Drops out Who are you voting for

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Jan 30, 2008.

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Who will you vote for if RP drops out

  1. McCain

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    5.0%
  2. Obama

    13 vote(s)
    65.0%
  3. Huckabee

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    10.0%
  4. Clinton

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    10.0%
  5. Romney

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  6. Edwards

    0 vote(s)
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  7. Giuliani

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  1. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #41
    ssandecki I agree as of this moment. I just don't see how the Republicans have any shot in November. BUT... there is still a ways to go, something big could happen between now and then that could change things of course. But it'd have to be something real big.
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #42
    No strawmen here.

    When you hear a Ron Paul supporter refer to "neocon," rest assured they mean "Jew."

    Then ask yourself...when was the last time I saw a Ron Paul supporter here stand up for Israel or Jews, and when is the last time I saw them stand up for Iran and other terrorist organizations?

    The first would be never. The second would be always.
     
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  3. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #43
    I rarely use 'neocon' rest assured when I use it, quote it, etc it does not mean 'jew'
    If I am talking about Jews I will say Jew

    :rolleyes:
     
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  4. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #44
    Nope. We mean Daddy Kristol and his moron son William, as well as Rudy Giuliani advisor Norman Podhoretz.

    Please read the links posted to better understand neoconservatism. It seems Ron Paul supporters are much better educated than you on so many issues like economics, monetary policy, constitutional law, foreign policy history, traditional republicanism, classic conservatism etc., this is one opportunity for you to catch up.

    I've stood up for Israel recently. So the answer is not "never". Remember, Ron Paul stood against Reagan when he supported Israel bombing Iraq in 1981.

    The anti-semitic smears don't hold water.
     
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  5. Boulder

    Boulder Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I vote for McCain, He is the only one that stands up for anything meaningful, IMO.

    The others are all a bunch of yes, no, peons.

    Boulder
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #46
    Someone is upset that terrorists don't have a fair advantage again. Now we're back to 19 hijackers, when over 200 have been arrested since then in plots to blow up American interests.

    I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in that. Well, actually....
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #47
    Thanks, but I'm not a ron paul supporter, so being gullible doesn't come as easy for me. There is no question that Ron Paul and his supporters use the term "neocon" as a replacement word for "Jews."

    Did hell freeze over? YOU, stood up for Israel? In the same manner you stand up for Iran (the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism) and other terrorist organizations? I'd love to see that! Did it hurt?

    Ron Paul's numerous anti-semitic newsletters have already exposed him for his hatred of Israel, Jews and Blacks. This is probably another reason why he is polling at 3%.
     
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  8. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #48
    Continue to change the topic. You've now been owned on the delegate process for party nomination, and the definition of neoconservatism in the last 24 hours. Want to make it a Trifecta? Keep up this line of argument.

    You can start by listing the 200 arrests, so I can debunk them.

    You missed my thread yesterday debunking the 200 arrest myth. If you count people who have been entrapped, wannabe broke losers with no access or ability to execute an attack, or people who talk a lot of crap while they are high on drugs, then yes.

    But if you want to talk convictions, you'll be surprised to know that most of these pizza delivery boys and taxi drivers usually don't even see a jury because the judge throws out the fabricated cases.

    Bring it. I've got all evening to absolutely educate you on this topic.
     
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  9. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #49
    Well, I'll concede that in your mind (and we know how small and uninformed it can be), you probably believe this.

    You could see it if you weren't thread jacking a half dozen threads every day with the same smears and slander, taking discussion off topic in some grand effort to draw attention to yourself.

    And his votes speak differently. I'll take the man by his votes, not by ghostwritten newsletters. Ron Paul has repeatedly supported Israel's sovereignty, and fought against racial injustice in the judicial system.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #50
    I stopped there. Dishonesty as a dime a dozen with you and other RP supporters.

    I'm sorry you are upset that people you support are being caught and prevented from blowing the country you reside in up.

    You don't have to convince me you want it easier for them to achieve their objectives. I already believe you.
     
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  11. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    #51
    You would waste a perfectly good evening man. We all know that Gquack's mind is so closed one can't even squeeze a needle through it. Hey Gtech, why are you tearing America down? Why don't you put America first? I think I know why, cause you do not care about America!
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #52
    I believe you will take him either way, like grim admitted. Racism isn't an issue for a ron paul supporter.

    Ron Paul has spent more time railing against Israel for everything imaginable, than any group of candidates combined over the last 25 years. Ron Paul is against the civil rights act, voted against reauthorization, voted not to give Rosa Parks a medal, has been exposed for his vile hatred against blacks and has already defended his racism in 1996.

    You don't have to convince me, like grim did, that you don't care about his racist past. I already believe you.
     
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  13. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    #53
    Are you an American or an Israeli? Who do you care most about? Come one spill the beans, tell everyone your true feelings. Who would you fight for and die for if need be, Israel or the U.S.A.??? Just so we all know where you stand on this.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #54
    :rolleyes:

    Yet you are the one who takes a white power individuals word to bash a war vet, hmmmm..........................
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #55
    grim reaffirms his position that he doesn't care at all if ron paul wrote his racist newsletters. Thank you! Now if only guerilla and others would follow your lead.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #56
    Nope, you again are putting words into my posts.

    I have stated before, I don't find what I read as being racist. Poorly worded? Yes, racist, especially considering the times, not even close.

    That is my stance as it always has been.

    So how long you going to beat this dead horse for Gtech? I'm about to start up the Huckabee left a rapist out to murder mantra over and over as it'd be just as dumb.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #57
    I've probably endured more racism in my life than you, and if I don't see Paul as racist, I find it insincere and intentionally misleading that you would continue this tact. Racism is an issue, but its not an issue with Ron Paul.

    Your bigotry, and continued inference that I am occupying the country, and am not a citizen by birth and the birth of my mother however is a totally different story. I certainly take issue with your limp wristed racism.

    Reagan was against the Civil Rights Act. Goldwater was against the Civil Rights Act. You probably cannot even fathom why, because it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with liberty.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1953700

    Paul opposed using taxpayer funds for a Rosa Parks medal, he offered his own money and encouraged the rest of congress to do the same. Did the same thing with Reagan, Pope John Paul II, and Mother Teresa. It's not racially motivated, it's based on the principle that Congress has no right to confiscate taxpayer funds for this purchase, and if Congress thought it was such a good idea, they all could have chipped in $100 each and done it themselves.

    Source on the Israel allegations? Since you say it is "more time", please break out the length of the quotes or speeches by word or character count.

    You mean his fabricated past that you continue to promote on these forums, in a half dozen threads every day, regardless of the original topic, in some desperate attempt for attention and self-worth?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #58
    You must have missed how GTech is already off the Huckabee bandwagon. Last night he claimed he would support the most war mongering candidate, leaving himself wiggle room to support Romney or McCain, although ultimately, in the privacy of the voting booth, I'm sure he will return home to the nest and vote Clinton.
     
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    #59
    Is he?

    I guess so much for standing up for what you believe in.
     
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    #60
    GRIM, this is a Clinton voter who now claims to be a conservative Republican.

    The reality is that GTech is whatever he needs to be, at any given moment, to attract as much attention to himself as possible.
     
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