If it was any other religion besides Islam, what would the world say?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, Mar 31, 2007.

  1. #1
    Why does Islam get a pass? If any other religion in the world had such headlines, there would be a total and complete outrage. But why does everyone ignore it when Islam is to blame?


    Muslims in Nigeria Club Christian Teacher to Death For Touching The Qur'an.
    http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11532579/

    Evangelist Beaten to Death by Muslim Extremists Inside Mosque
    http://www.christianpost.com/articl..._Death_by_Muslim_Extremists_Inside_Mosque.htm

    Muslims torture Christian “blasphemer” for hours
    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8855&theme=8&size=A

    A SAUDI woman who was kidnapped at knifepoint, gang-raped and then beaten by her brother was sentenced to 90 lashes
    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21332543-2,00.html

    Kidnapped children used for terrorist attacks
    http://news.monstersandcritics.com/..._used_for_terrorist_attacks_Interior_Ministry

    Saudi runaway woman gets 60 lashes
    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/previousdetail.php?id=117665

    Extremists 'are encouraging violence against Muslim women'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...article_id=444644&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

    Bangladeshi Woman Tortured, Murdered for Refusing Marriage
    http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/03/23/d70323013321.htm

    Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
    http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2...story/0,21985,21421664-663,00.html&frame=true


    I could literally go on with 1000's upon 1000's of links. Can you do the same with any other religion? No. So why does Islam get a pass?
    If this were Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or anyone else, the would would be up in arms, would they not?
     
    ly2, Mar 31, 2007 IP
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Islam has always gotten a pass..but then again, so have a lot of other religious groups...you could take the crusades for example...at the time, Christians got a pass....I think Islam is getting a pass right now because the major nations of this world are trying to prevent WW4...but thats just my thoughts...I still don't agree with it either. Islam is a religion of violence and hate, and definitaly not of peace.
     
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    Yea, ALL religions went through their so called 'dark ages' where they murdered and did horrible things. But they have all evolved into the more tame religions of today. But why is Islam unable to evolve into a tame religion? I don't get it. And just how long should everyone wait for them to come out of the dark ages? I mean seriously...
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I agree...and look at why they are still in the dark ages....look at countries such as Iran that are under Islamic law...its almost as bad as communism or socialism.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    Was it Muslim people who nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    Was it Muslim people who genocided millions of Jews?
    Was it Muslim people who genocided American Indians?
    Was it Muslim people who genocided Algerians?
    Was Jack The Ripper a Muslim?
    Were Crusaders Muslim people?
    Was Mussolini a Muslim?
    Is GWB a Muslim?
    Were people who used black people and south asians as slaves, and discriminated them for hundreds of years Muslim?
    Is it Muslims who cause global warming?
    Are serial killers in US Muslims?

    If you are ignorant enough to associate unpleasent events directly with religions, you'd really be ashamed in that point of view, at least we can consider these out of your religion when you can't seperate the two.
     
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    Sir, most of the stuff you listed was*NOT* done in the name of a religion. And the stuff that was took place many many years ago. We already established the dark ages issue. We are talking about today, right now. Your argument is extremely weak.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex

    So someone rips her wife's eyes out and is it associated with religion?
    Today or yesterday is the same case considering this issue since religions weren't created today.

    That's a pretty wrong point of view i'm telling you. Those events you said have nothing to do with religion, they are only deep ignorancy of those people.

    Do not support this hate please, it's useful to noone.
     
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    If the marraige was arranged, and he refused the divorce, then yes, it has to do with religion...they must abide by the ethical codes of their religion. Thats another weak argument from you leo...
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    This is the judgment of individuals, it does not represent a religion, look into European court decesions of 500 years ago in that case, they were Christians too right? Who killed people violantly for being witches under the name of your religion? It was only ignorancy, not like the religion orders it or something. None of these happen in my country does it mean we are not Muslims? Things interpretated differently in different locations, due to different social structures and culture. Hurting your wife or anyone of your family is a big sin according to Islam no matter under what pretext you commit it.

    If you want to fight with something, fight with ignorancy and inhumanly balanced economical shares, not religion. If ignorancy is destroyed, none of these will happen. Fighting with religions is supposed to be left behind in dark ages. Don't be wicked Don Quixote's.
     
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    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #10
    This is exactly the problem, stop trying to be fucking politically correct and listen to how people actually feel, watch what is going on around you, and you'll see these aren't the rantings of one person, they are beliefs common to a large portion of western society.
     
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    so you are saying we should just tell them "thats not cool" and let it slide? Always the appeaser arn't you?
     
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    If western society can't look into matters decently and detect the real reasons behind the problems, these religion poles will continue. If you want to consistantly have problems with Muslim people and believe Islam is the problem, go on like that, but remember it's you who avoid the peace with that manner. (F word suited your sentence btw)

    I missed the point i suggested anything like that. If saying "that's not cool" is your way of fighting with ignorancy and inhumanly shared economics, no comment.
     
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    #13
    We are looking into matters to detect the real issues. The real issue continues to be Islam. It's not bigotry, racist, or anything else. Islam just has some SERIOUS flaws. There are plenty of good Muslim people, there are also just as many bad Muslim people. That is the issue. Why are so many of them so evil? What are they so mad about?
     
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    I don't see western society not detecting the problem, I see Muslim society denying it.
     
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    Because other cultures does not do things like that, but if they did they would get the same head lines.
     
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    so like I said...just ignore the problem, tell em "thats not cool"..and it will go away? what kind of solution is this?
     
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    Because Middle-East people are majorly poor and ignorant people. In every society poor and ignorant people are likely to be criminals and tend to solve their problems with violance. Since they have no education, they have nothing but religion to fit themselves in, so any act from them are somehow done or percepted as if it was made under the name of religion, that's why you see most of them as evil.

    I wish you knew them closely, it doesn't take long to understand the problem.
     
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    Man, i don't think you or any of these people are bad people. There are many reasons triggering these people, the politics by Israel, western oil politics over the area, many stuff. Don't be fooled by the media here. I'm a Muslim and if you hate me for that i don't mind, but i don't hate any of you for being Christians. Because i have enough education to know it's stupid to hate a religion or its' members.
     
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    That's just not true. There are poor people across the world, much poorer than Muslim cultures. Yet they do not behave in the way Muslims do. You can't blame this on poverty. The cause IS NOT poverty. Matter of fact, many many of the suicide bombers are in fact from wealthier and more educated families.
     
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    I have no religion. And of course the Israel reason comes up again. They have a chunk of land equal to about .5% of total Muslim land. They didn't steal the land, the land was given to them by the British I believe.

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    See the green? Yes, that's a HUGE MASS of land I know. It's really a cause for great concern. I mean really, get over it already. They aren't going to leave, and you are not going to beat them in a war. Why not just start acting civilized?
    There comes a time when you have to know when enough is enough. You guys have been treading water from day one, you are making no progress what so ever. Matter of fact, an argument could be made you are making it worse on yourselves. Maybe it's time to begin acting like normal society and get out of the dark ages?
     
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