If I create an ad network... will you come?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by dopiitv, May 18, 2007.

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  1. qwestcommunications

    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    #21
    You must realise creating something like this will incur huge costs. Google and Yahoo spend millions in developing or buying the network that serves the ads.
     
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    #22
    If you pay on time and better than Google and YPN I will come. But I doubt it since you do not enough contacts to make big deals with big companies.
     
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    anthonyn Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I would like to know more about your quality work before I join.I first need to make my own home work.
     
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    #24
    Wow ruby..giving the competition some advice? That's class! :D
     
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    #25
    I want to start a similar thing - a contextual ad network, however the costs to make this properly scare me. If you want to be efficient you need to write your software in C++, just forget Pyton, PHP or anything else. C++ offers the best performance.

    Now, you need to parse the sites you have advertisments basically everyday, you need to index them, you need to determine which of the current ads are relevant for a certain page, and so on. While this seems simple it requires YEARS of programming to really compete with google. If you do something simple - like throwing 10k to a php programmer you are going to just waste your money.

    Another thing - supposing that you developed your contextual ad network! Only now the real work begins - you must convince premium sites to join your network and put your ads on their sites and the most difficult task is to convince the advertisers to spend money using your system. This is a titanic work.

    I don't say not to do it, I say to do it professionally and make some real financial calculus before you start this. Otherwise there are tons of free or payed scripts that claim to make the same.

    Egomancer
     
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  6. ruby

    ruby Well-Known Member

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    #26

    Anywhere I can help... I guess what I don't want to see is more poor quality ad networks because it makes all of us look bad.

    We have spent the good part of a year working on AdToll and preparing for this launch and we still have a lot of work to do after the launch with more features etc etc.
     
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  7. Egomancer

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    #27
    Ruby, how many manXmonth of work did you put into the programming of the site and what language you made it?

    Egomancer
     
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  8. ruby

    ruby Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I am happy to provide suggestions but the technical details and info I don't want to share.

    AdToll.com is not a contextual network like Adwords however but more of an ad management network where advertisers can buy ads directly on your site (sponsored ads) or can use Run of Network campaigns targeted by region/vertical etc.

    Our aim was not to compete head to head with Google or those bigger players but to try and be a premium service in the ad management offering.
     
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  9. Egomancer

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    #29
    Similar with AdBrite then...

    And what do you bring new compared with them ?

    Egomancer
     
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  10. ruby

    ruby Well-Known Member

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    #30
    I am not about to hijack this thread.... we have more info at adtoll.com and we send our info in our pre-launch newsletters.

    We do have differences to Adbrite and the other networks.
     
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    #31
    I'll only come if you bring the booze....

    Oh, I mean if it can be run alongside adsense -- which it probably won't allow as that would probably break Google TOS, so probably NO!
     
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    #32
    [2cents]You need to really excellent to be better or the same as Google Adwords/Adsense you know. I think that always a better idea is not to fight with the big guys when you're small but to be the best in a small town/village. That is, create an adsense, adwords network for a specific niche and tune it better then adwords/adsense for that niche. But seeing that you ask for $5 in another thread to cover up your hosting for a site doesn't sound like you're going to invest money in this. It's not such an easy project.[/2cents]
     
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  13. dopiitv

    dopiitv Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Well no I was going to have the money to invest from the bank (yea a $100,000 loan). I put together a really nice presentation and everything. Then the bank decided to drop my loan because they thought I wasn't going to succeed because I was competing with google. The reason I asked for $5 is because the banks are closed here and I couldn't deposit anymore money. I like cash better than electronic funds :).
    So yea... theres no new ad network coming.
    Sorry guys.
    If my new project becomes a hit, I'll definately put all that money into making one... but for right now theres no new network coming up. Sorry guys
    Thanks
    Mike
     
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  14. D'Godown

    D'Godown Well-Known Member

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    #34
    need a partner?
     
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  15. dopiitv

    dopiitv Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Well I have turned to a different project for now.
    I am going to try this after I complete my other project.
    Thanks though
    Mike
     
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  16. D'Godown

    D'Godown Well-Known Member

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    #36
    OK

    Thread Closed.
     
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  17. Notting

    Notting Notable Member

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    #37
    It was never going to work you silly human. What on earth were you thinking! Muppet


    Notting
     
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    #38
    According to the majority of people it all comes down to the payout. Give us some details.
     
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    #39
    Sure, why not.
    As far as it's paying better than AdSense, I'm sure everyone will implement it.
     
    zexy, May 21, 2007 IP
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