If A Subdomain Is Banned, Will the Main Domain Be Banned?

Discussion in 'Google' started by gpearce, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hey Everyone
    I've got a sort of network site, and I have some BANS sites on subdomains. I also have loads of other stuff (some completely unrelated) spread across my subdomains.
    Now I've seen on the BANS site that Google seems to be peanalising BANS sites, and I was wondering, if the subdomain gets peanalised / banned, will the rest of the domain be effected?
    Thanks!
     
    gpearce, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    Yes, remember a sub-domain is just a domain name system alias. So if a sub-domain was banned, most likely all hierarchy aliases for that domain and that domain itself would be banned. I'm positive that Google uses hostnames & IPs to ban websites from their index.
     
    astup1didiot, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    pipsbank Banned

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    #3
    normally if the subdomain being penalized the domain are effected too.
     
    pipsbank, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    gpearce Active Member

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    ah, ok. In that case, i'm off to buy some .infos :p
     
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    ameran Well-Known Member

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    I don´t think so. If a robot would banned you then your main domain will be ok because robots understand the subdomain as a different domain but if a human banned your subdomain then it could be possible that he/she bans your main domain too. That is my understanding. I have an example for that too. A social networking banned my main domain but I am sending posts with my subdomain and it is fully ok. No problem.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    A subdomain is still a domain name alias, most likely they would ban the entire domain name. If not, you could just change the sub-domain alias ;)
     
    astup1didiot, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    Find out the reason you were banned .. and fix that up and you will be saved ;)
     
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  8. gpearce

    gpearce Active Member

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    I wasn't banned, I'm worried that I might be, or that my site might be peanalised for the BANS stores :p
    I've bought some .info domains, those'll do
     
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    fesei Peon

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    I don't think that the entire domain would be banned if a subdomain gets banned. Subdomains are considered to be self-standing sites; the main domain shouldn't be affected. I'll give you an example: if a blogspot blog is banned, will the entire domain be banned? If a wordpress.com blog is banned, will the entire wordpress.com domain be banned? No, it wouldn't.
     
    fesei, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    jagannath_4all Peon

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    #10
    I dont think a subdomain ban would affect the entire domain.. if thats the case blogspot.com wordpress.com and countless other free hosters domains would be banned hehehe :D

    Disclaimer: I might be wrong :p

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    jagannath_4all, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    gpearce Active Member

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    Well blogspot doesn't have a problem, Google own it, I don't know about wordpress.com. Maybe they get exempt because they offer free hosting? :\
     
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    BlogSpot hostes by Google ... but law for every one is same ... !!
     
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    Do you use Google Webmaster Tools?

    If a ban comes up, you'll be notified...
     
    Octane, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    #14
    A while ago someone on dp suggested that a subdomain interlinked with the main domain was treated as part of the main site, whereas one that was not interlinked was treated as a separate site.

    So a subdomain with links to and from the main domain is treated as part of the main domain - and they would both be banned together.

    That would also explain why an individual blogspot / wordpress blog can be banned without the whole site being banned, because blogspot.com etc don't link to the individual subdomains.

    Sounds plausible, I think. I haven't tested it because I don't want anything banned, even a subdomain.
     
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    jubi Peon

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    #15
    Sub-domain is treated by google in the same way as domain, unless they are strongly linked.
    If google uses hostnames & ips to ban websites how it's possible that shared hostings are still doing fine? ;)
    About a year ago google banned about 20 my subdomains, but main domain is still in google index; the same thing happened with some of my other subdomains/domains.
    You have any proof for your theory about bans on main domains/ips?
     
    jubi, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    ganeshkgiri Active Member

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    #16
    if sub domain band then all domain band
     
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    #17
    imagine a blogspot blog with alot of spam, it could get banned but blogspot.com would obviously be intact.
     
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    #18
    Google is not banning BANS sites. I should know, I have nearly 100 stores. Google is going through a huge algo/dance right now. Just relax.
     
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    #19
    This is different story. Be sure also google are aware of such sites. The sub-domain is just a system alias of the domain name, if it gets banned, I'm 90% sure all the related aliases will be banned also. Otherwise you could easely manipulate google.
     
    icetrax, Mar 25, 2008 IP
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    angilina Notable Member

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    #20
    There are sites where everyone can have a free subdomains, incase some how, someones subdomain is banned, Now will this means that all other sub domains + the main domain will be banned too ?

    Not sure.
     
    angilina, Mar 26, 2008 IP