Ideas About My New Website Design

Discussion in 'Websites' started by jss4ever, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hey Guys at DP :) hope u doing well

    Just need a review from the pro design about my new website design
    that i find it very cool and a new idea
    :D

    i need your thoughts and thx in advance


    the site www.jss4ever.co.cc

    PSOUT
     
    jss4ever, Dec 3, 2008 IP
  2. ayelet.k

    ayelet.k Peon

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    i think its cute and happy. but - i have some remarks:
    first, i would remove that guy standing there (is it you?)... his appearance is... i dont know, maybe too much comics-like.
    second, the games page is too different from the homepage, even if they both very colourful.
    third, i couldnt get the other pages.
     
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  3. jss4ever

    jss4ever Well-Known Member

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    thx for reviewing my site,, rep's added
    i think u could'nt get the other pages because u didn't scrolled down
    and the home page of my site is when you click at the first house at the left side

    and the other houses i show for sale sign in up of them

    when you click at the houses for sale you'll find interesting things

    and the content is down when you scroll


    thx dear
     
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  4. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    WAY too cute for it's own good... The biggest problem visually being the orange text with the black border is nigh impossible to read. It also seems like your images were sliced willy-nilly since as you have no :hover effects there is no reason for that to be more than one, maybe two images.

    Your 'landing' page ends up little more than a splash page - in which case you should probably have first visits go to your HOME page; that's what a HOME page is for.

    The use of frames makes it an accessability /FAIL/. There's a reason frames stopped being used for anything but utilities and back-ends a decade ago. The lack of direct links to any of your subpages appearing in the address bar is why frames really have gone the way of the dodo. (even if some people are trying to bring back the same problems abusing AJAX for things like tabs)

    The use of images without any sort of real text fallbacks also makes the code seem quite dated and adds to the accessability woes.... You've got spacer.gif's, presentational markup, tables on elements that don't need tables, and a whole slew of other things that make the page more 1997 than 2008 as all of those things belong long gone in the past.
     
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    jss4ever Well-Known Member

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    Thx for you too deathshadow ,reps added :)
    and now im working on your advices
    and about the frames , i think its better than putting the whole page in the same one, this will make it load much faster thou

    and i made the rollover pics in my menu

    and i really appreciate your review ,, thx again
     
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    #6
    The link is wrong. Change it to the correct one. I finally opened it using copy-past. The site is really cute. But the photo gallery loads too long.The page with games is different from all of the site. KMaybe yopu change the background?
    Wish you finding new neighbours soon!!!
     
    zloi, Dec 4, 2008 IP
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    Hi dear,

    I was not able to see your site... everytime i tried i get some error like object not found....& yes finally i got your site. actually the link you have given is wrong, correct it so that other users can view your site.....many things have been said by the users before me. I also want to ask one thing when i place my cursor at any link it shows a link to a new HTML page but when i click it it shows the information correctly on home page........i am not getting this thing...could you help me????////
     
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  8. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    ... thing is the only reason to use frames in a case like this is to put the COMMON elements of the page - specifically your menu items in a separate frame from each page content - in this case you have that entire top area in every "frame's" code saving you no bandwidth - in fact you are making it take longer to load by wrapping everything in that outermost wrapper.

    If you are serious about loading faster, what you need to do is trim down your markup since it's filled to the brim with presentational deprecated elements - again welcome to 1997. The font tag for example has no place in a modern design, the use of the IMG tag for presentational elements has no place, the table isn't doing anything for you apart from making it more complex than need be, and now you've added javascript for rollovers which there's been no reason to do since 1998. (seriously we need to take adobe around back of the woodshed with a 30-06 for that mm_swap nonsense they still recommend - much less the rest of the sloppy outdated code and practices their rubbish crapware like fireworks and dreamweaver promote.)

    Where you have that 100 odd lines/4.8k of table, I would simplify down to:
    
    <ul id="mainMenu">
    	<li class="home"><a href="home.html">Home<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="forSale"><a href="forsale.html">For Sale<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="forSale2"><a href="forsale.html">For Sale<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="forSale3"><a href="forsale.html">For Sale<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="photos"><a href="photos.html">Photos<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="games"><a href="games.html">Games<span></span></a></li>
    	<li class="contact"><a href="contact.html">Contact<span></span></a></li>
    </ul>
    
    Code (markup):
    This is how I'd approach that same page (no appearance changes, just code):
    http://www.cutcodedown.com/for_others/jss4ever/template.html

    The directory:
    http://www.cutcodedown.com/for_others/jss4ever/

    is unlocked so you can grab the bits and pieces - specifically the screen.css and ONE image used to create the page (even the hover states)

    Because it only uses one image the initial page load feels faster, and in fact can be faster since the page is only three files, not the 23 of your original. In most browsers the first eight file requests can go out simultaneously, making their 'handshaking' take anywhere from 200 to 1000ms total. Each file past that first eight can take an additional 200-1000ms EACH in handshaking, which is why pages that use lots of images sit there loading so slow. If you've uploaded files via FTP you have likely noticed that a single 300k file uploads ten times faster than ten 3k ones, despite being ten times larger total? Same effect.

    Loading sub pages (I only did the base template and home page as an example) is also faster because all the presentation was moved into the CSS. Because the CSS is cached, that's data that does not have to be loaded more than once, stripping your average sub-page down to anywhere from two to six k, whereas using 'old-fashioned' markup they would be anywhere from 20 to 50k.

    I really wish we could burn all the old HTML books that teach presentational markup first. CSS should be taught alongside HTML these days, and presentational markup shouldn't be taught at all.
     
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  9. jss4ever

    jss4ever Well-Known Member

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    deathshadow . i really don't know how to thank you m
    you did all that coding for me
    i really like the coding and im upto replace it all
    i wish u always a good luck in ur life career
    best wishes

    and if u can link me to the tutorial to the css coding and these issues

    best wishes
    =================
    another thing
    do u use any software could give u a Right-hand in writing all these codes
    or any software could do all the css work for me
    because im not well at css coding

    im really amazed about what u did to my page

    u really flipped it up down

    thx again
     
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  10. ayelet.k

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    well yeah, the deathshadow*is* amazing.

    p.s. - 1997 is not that bad. in 10 yrs from now it would be the most up to date look, just like the '80 are today:)
     
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    sorry my friend iam unlucky to view it.Its not loading error-Object not found!The requested URL was not found on this server.so make it to work.Bye.
     
    netdriver788, Dec 5, 2008 IP
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    Hi,

    i have already given a review to your site.
     
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    Hey I have a error message that the link is down?
    "Object not found!

    The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error.

    If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. "
     
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  14. jss4ever

    jss4ever Well-Known Member

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    thx guyz . i think u need to copy the link directly to the address bar
    there is something wronng with da link

    psout
     
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    I'm all the time getting the same top page and do not feel that new page is loaded, till I've read all replies in this forum! I am working with 1024x768 screen and IE on full window and all changes are out of visible part of IE window. At least page title or something else should change upon new page loading.
     
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