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Iceland Considers Pornography Ban

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Populace, Feb 14, 2013.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/iceland/9866949/Iceland-considers-pornography-ban.html

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  2. J Mintuck

    J Mintuck Banned

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    I know I am going to be unpopular here, but I support ban on pornography. Too many porn sites to run into, even accidentally. I have tried to find things and found porn sites on search results and have gotten angry about this.
    J Mintuck, Feb 14, 2013 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    The only bad porn is that which is filmed on a set with poor lighting. I mostly watch for the plot, not the nudity.
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    browntwn Prominent Member

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    Doesn't Iceland have an approved set of first names people must pick from when naming their kids? Seems like a government with way too much time on their hands.
    browntwn, Feb 14, 2013 IP
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    That's crazy! I didn't know that. Eeeks.
    Rebecca, Feb 15, 2013 IP
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    r3dt@rget Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing how people could support government controlling so much of their lives. When are people going to realize that laws and regulations don't fix the fundamental problems of society? The problem is family and parenting. Almost all the top issues in the world could be solved by stronger families and better parenting. For example, a child should only be using the internet with a parents permission and supervision. All browsers support parental locks to prevent children from sneaking onto porn websites. And I love how the article says that experts that work with these children are behind this. Am I the only one that thinks the parents should be the experts on what is best for their children? Instead, they let the "experts" create laws that regulate their children.
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    I don't support Internet censorship of any kind. From experience once you let a law pass it's made worse little by little then heavily enforced later. Frog in boiling water comes to mind.
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    How did they ever go from raping, pillaging, and burning down villages to becoming politically correct Vikings?
    Spoiltdiva, Feb 16, 2013 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #9

    You are starting to sound like a libertarian Bush. Your analogy describes well why I support the NRA's philosophy on gun control.

    The anti-smoking lobby in California first started getting legislation passed about 20 years ago. First it was no smoking in hospitals (duhh). Then it was smoking sections in restaurants. Then it was no smoking in restaurants and bars at all, except for outside patios. Now it is no smoking within 300 ft of many of these establishments, and they are pushing to criminalize smoking in a car with your children in it. The did it all based on some deeply flawed studies on second hand smoke that later evolved into a down right prejudice against smoking as an activity.

    The NRA figures, you fight every last law they try and create because failure to do so will result in making gun ownership impossible, if not officially illegal, via a patchwork of laws that get added, one by one by one. So when the friendly gun control people come a calling, asking stupid questions like why I need a pistol grip and a 30 round magazine for my rifle, the answer is, "none of your F'n business".
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    Yes, it would seem that the government in Iceland has a firm grip on the country and this is such a bad thing that the crimes in the country dominate world news every day. :(
    Emma Pollard, Feb 23, 2013 IP
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    The rate of intentional homicide, and crimes in general, are significantly higher in the UK compared to Iceland.
    Rebecca, Feb 23, 2013 IP
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    When has national insignificance become a measurement of quality government?
    browntwn, Feb 23, 2013 IP
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    @Rebecca. Sorry but I think you missed the sarcasm in my post. That was the point, they obviously have a low crime rate as they are never in the news for it. The last time they were in the news was about the volcano, which was hardly the government's fault. :)

    @browntwn, *National Insignificance*? A nation which has possibly one of the most stable economies in Europe and has such a low crime rate that nobody ever hears of them does not make them insignificant.
    Emma Pollard, Feb 24, 2013 IP
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    With a population of 320,000, Iceland would only need to add a million people to have a population the size of the city of San Diego in California. They are insignificant to the point of complete irrelevance. They are an island state with an entirely homogeneous population and almost no immigration. You might as well comparing crime statistics with a colony on the moon.

    What we can compare, however, is what type of laws they put into place. For instance, if a small island nation puts into place laws legalizing the beating of your wife, that is something we can compare because it involves basic human rights and dignity. I don't see laws limiting what name you can give your child being too far off that mark. Somehow, I suspect that if Iceland had passed a law legalizing beating of your wife, you wouldn't be trying to cite them as some kind of example on crime stats.

    Regarding their economy, you should educate yourself on that front as well.... a few interesting articles:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–2011_Icelandic_financial_crisis
    http://reason.com/archives/2012/09/07/iceland-provides-a-blueprint-for-survivi

    Wonderful stories about fiscal irresponsibility, and how austerity measures work.
    Obamanation, Feb 24, 2013 IP
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    The population (or lack of) a country does not make it insignificant. Some might say that larger countries are insignificant as they contribute proportionately little to the global community.
    Iceland is obviously not insignificant enough for you not to be bothered with the research, comparing laws restricting what you can name a child is hardly comparable to a law allowing the beating of your wife.
    The links you provided were a little confusing as I thought the purpose was to prove me wrong.
    Both state that Iceland was hit by reccession, which is no big surprise as it is a global problem. They also state that Icelands handling of the crisis could, and should, be used by other countries as a template for recovery. In particular the US and the UK, which is something I have agreed with for sometime.
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    So the comment about the size and nature of their population was in response to this comment:
    In the case of crime statistics, the size, density, educational, ethnic, and socio-economic makeup of your population make all the difference in the world. You aren't comparing apples and oranges, you are comparing apples and solar systems. Iceland is insignificant for the purposes of that comparison.

    Large countries contribute proportionately little? I'm guessing you carry an Iphone, through which you access Facebook, Gmail, and a variety of other contributions to the global community made by a large country. You can say thank you for the fact you don't speak German to the same large country. I've never heard of anything so ignorant.




    It is exactly the same issue at stake. Personal liberty. That is why it was given in response to a thread about Iceland's pornography ban, which is the same issue, yet again. Given your position on the gun issue, you have made it clear that you don't understand that, and there is very little I can put to print that will clarify that for you. There are more than a few works of literature that illustrate the point in different and more meaningful ways. You might want to start with Orwell's "1984".


    So my comments about Iceland's economy were in response to this statement.



    In explanation of my links, a scant four years ago, Iceland's economy and currency collapsed. That is not stability, that is bloody instability. Saying Iceland has one of the most stable economies in Europe today is like saying Mars has a lovely climate compared to Neptune. Compared to Earth, its a desolate wasteland.
    I cited the second article because Iceland took an entirely different approach than Europe to getting through the recession, namely austerity. None of the other counties, like Greece, want to take their single mothers(and 90% of the rest of the people in the country who all subsist off the government in some way or other) off the dole to put some austerity measures in place. And yes, the US could take a lesson here as well.
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    Iceland is a "supermarket"! (See: http://www.iceland.co.uk/.)

    In all seriousness, a beautiful country, but some dumbass policies.

    Ban porn? LOL, they think it's going to stop anyone getting it if they want? Adult or child. It's so easy to find free proxies or cheap VPNs.

    Limit the names you can give to your children? What next, the ethnicities allowed to live there? Is Hitler their role model?

    They even banned beer. Duh. (OK, there's a bit more to it.)

    And I'll never forget about my time as a university student and meeting some very... interesting (shall we say) girls from Iceland (and I don't mean ones who worked at the supermarket). Limiting what they can see won't change what's already in their minds.
    ryan_uk, Feb 25, 2013 IP
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    Porn is un-bannable. There is so much of it around. The only way to ban porn is to blow up the electricity grid and go house to house like the gestapo burning adult books.

    Then you will have about half as many adult books, because men know how to hide their porn fairly well. If your wife/mom can't find your porn, then good luck to the government trying to get it, its not gonna be found.

    I like how people think that making something illegal, will make it disappear. It is great logic that looks good on paper. But that logic is worth about as much as that piece of paper. About the only thing you can do with it is use it for toilet paper.
    brandama, Mar 9, 2013 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    When I read your post the first time, I somehow or other thought you wrote "use porn for toilet paper", which of course is not at all what you wrote. The idea of putting porn on toilet paper, however, has great merit. Headed to the patent office now.
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    You're too late!
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    However, there is massive room for improvement.
    brandama, Mar 9, 2013 IP