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I think the answer consists of more then just a yes or no. I think this issue has been discussed before.

 

Theme has absolutely nothing to do with whether a directory has/is quality. Just because we may morally not agree with a specific theme of a directory doesn't mean its a poor site or lacking in quality.

 

LaCabra you are correct in your hang-up about the word 'quality' and I warned dopiitv about using that word too much (or at all) would cause problems because it is a subjective thing and I think the 60% threshold for admitting new members is good for everyone because it encourages people to do better and gives them some (be it arbitrary) measure to help.

There are some people here that would say that any web directory is 'no quality' because one of it's primary purposes is to provide backlinks and this could be abused in gaming the search engines.

So again, arguing 'quality' is a no-win situation, I think it is better to concentrate on having all directories involved meeting at least some minimum standards.

In addition I would also like to see some type of ownership verification instituted so if problems do arise with members the association would be able to step in and help customers deal with these issues.

 

LaCabra
Don’t help him, let him to define his own standards

I know that, you know that but I want to know his input on this subject.


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The point is, that it makes it irrelevant to this conversation. If you want to chat about different morals and values then try and contact him privately and see if he is willing to discuss them with you. Otherwise it just looks like you are trolling for a fight based on personal morals.

 

Is this listing and this the sort of content you would expect to find on a quality directory or should it be rejected?

 

jg123

My question has nothing to do with morals or morality at all.
Let him answer and then read part Two.

My comments will be directly related to Directories role per say and not
on what you are calling fight about morality.

Trust me, I know where I'm going



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I know where you are going too, the same place so many others on this forum have gone lately....his answer to those questions is not relevant and I hope he doesn't waste his time replying, gooogle lists lots of nasty porn sites with torture and more, does that mean they aren't a quality search engine?

If you are really going somewhere then get on with it. But I think you are trying to start a circular argument. Don't write cryptic posts thinking you are going to trick someone into making a statement you can tear-down, be a stand-up guy (or gal) and speak your mind clearly.

 

jg123

Ok, let me put it to you this way.

As I said before, he has good intention looking on his concept in general but
the way in which he is proceeding at the very root is filled with flaws.

1. Trust - will you trust someone who says: Trust me, I’ll make you Rich
2. Longevity - has nothing to show at this point. Site with PR0
3. Knowledge - his expertise in this subject matter. Let him to define: Directory
4. 5 editors - who are they and what qualifies them to be the judges
5. Quality - by whose standards. Define: Quality

If you have no problems with stuff from above then it doesn’t matter to you
or anybody else what my concern is all about and you can do whatever
you want but in my nature of things, I need to be convinced and not just
talked into something what may ended up as nothing more than a swindle.


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1. Never said I'll make you rich, point to me where I said that... thanks
2. What does PR have to do with anything? Do you know what PR is? Its based on links...
3. Directory: A group of sites listed under one site in order to gain traffic and exposure. And quality ones are what I'm after.
4. To avoid corruption, I can't disclose them. We'll probably disclose their names in a little bit, depending on weather they want to be named or not.
5. By the editors standards as of now. Eventually we will have a community vote to decide the guidlines.

I honestly don't know where you're going to the whole longevity and pagerank thing....

Thanks
Mike

 

I like the idea of a search engine that exclusively includes vetted directories, the idea has promise. But there are a few problems I foresee with the execution.

Firstly, in order for it to be worthwhile for a directory to buy into this idea, it needs to be established and promoted. That takes money, and a little time. There's no point in being in a directory that nobody searches, and people won't search what they haven't heard of. Without an advertising budget, this goes nowhere.

Secondly, a network effect is apparent: the more directories join the network, the more useful it will become to all involved. At the moment there are 6. Once it gets past a critical threshold and some of the more important players get involved, this concept could snowball.

I also have some trouble with the definitions of "quality" and "spam". You have to be very specific about what you mean by this in terms of listed websites, and why. It's not enough to say "quality", because all directories have varying editorial standards, so it doesn't mean the same thing to all people.

Criteria for adult and gambling listings should also be defined very specifically, so you can allow people to search for family-friendly results with more confidence.

I'm not sure about your policy of allowing everyone to become an editor in this organisation is a good plan. Sometimes a hierarchy is better than a democracy, and in terms of laying out a set of quality standards and enforcing them, you would need to have some kind of structure. Otherwise who is accountable when a directory full of MFA junk or even FFA links slips through?

 

In first case that's my idea ? who said it here?

 

Didnt get it from you, got it from someone else who let me use the idea...

 

I am already using that idea for about 6-months on my top directory search but I am sure it has been used before.

 

I think I may be far ahead of you as I have more nearly 1 million unique urls and as of now nearly 400,000 has been indexed (Not link SE's but a different indexing technique.

I hope I would be soon able to bring it out

 

dopiitv

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Another great feature is that you will gain thousands of links. Every search
result is then saved as a static html page with your link on it. This will allow
you to have thousands of *free* links! /end

I am paraphrasing your promise as: “Trust me, I’ll make you Rich”
Because no one can know what’s going to happen, you are BS us

Exactly

Wrong.
Directory is your Internet Yellow Pages and nothing more or less. As any YP it
should be unbiased, non judgmental, informative and effective.

Whatever you are trying to do in a form and shape you’re presented to us is
nothing more than a parody.

I don’t care what their names are. I asked you what makes them Judges and Jury.

Read ouote4 above

Look, we are not your enemies; you are your own enemy.
You came to us with under worked, loose-ended, frail, green idea thinking:
"I have a Winner" and we are telling you that you are not, at least not now.


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Not quite: that seems to be a matter of searching for directories, rather than using the results within them to create a set of search results. If I've understood what you're doing with that correctly.

I have seen this attempted before, although the name of the website it was on escapes me. Basically it was a small number of directories, and you could search for category pages within them. The way it was set up was quite similar to this idea, in that you had to pay about $20 for your directory to be included. I don't think it really took off. This is exactly what I think will happen here: people will be put off initially by the price barrier to entry, and the lack of brand exposure. Let's face it, I can't even remember the name of the website I first saw this implemented on.

 

Sorry Mike,
Directory:
My definition:
An index of businesses, internet sites, products or the like.
Further definition, An index that is created in order to provide relevant organized results to an information seeking.
(I wrote those, not from a dictionary)

Dictionary.com definition:
di·rec·to·ry –noun
1. a book containing an alphabetical index of the names and addresses of persons in a city, district, organization, etc., or of a particular category of people.
2. a board or tablet on a wall of a building listing the room and floor numbers of the occupants.
3. a book of directions.
4. Computers.
a. a list of files contained in external storage.
b. a description of characteristics of a particular file, as the layout of fields within each record.
5. the Directory, French History. the body of five directors forming the executive power of France from 1795 to 1799.
–adjective
6. serving to direct; directing; directive.

Has nothing to do with traffic or links or crap.

 

Thank you bobby! Early directories from 1995 to 1999 had some links but contained many business listing that had no web pages, but purely contact info, as web sites were not as main stream at the time. The mother of all directories, Yellowpages.com, also contains both linked and non liked businesses.

 

Your right, I was trying to point out a benifit I was offering directories that had partnerships with me.

As for a search engine that indexes all sites on a particular directory, I had this set up around 13 months ago with a small network of directories, here is the link announcing it and it also has a link to the search engine itself.

Your doing a little more than paraphrasing you are changing the meaning to suit your own ideas.