I would rather live in a Zoo

Debunked, do not put me in a class with the John Travolta's of the world, they should change their name to the church of Debunked.

 

Its interesting though, and he does actually bring out some intriguing points.

 

If we pay no attention to you will it work Cricket? What am I disrupting the Google Spyware plan, can you be the third in line for the Brain Implant after Sergey and Larry, after all they want to put the Google Brain Implant in the population.

No need for the toolbar then, right Cricket. O Cricket, do a search on Google for "Google Brain Implant" and let us all know of the articles you find. Then please do the same search on Yahoo or any of the other engines. Can you post the best links to the stories you find.

Please, then you can add to the research here, instead on stepping on it with your petty insults.

Love, Love

 

Google Spyware needs to be added to the swear filter I think..

 

VS, are you talking of Larry and Sergey or Cricket? Good Night everyone, I'll be dreaming of you VS.

 

Have you thought that they mught have great SERP's results BECAUSE they have thousands of sites interlinked?

 

Interesting thread - perhaps.

But only as a page to the world on the habits of humans.

I've been away looking after guests for three days - and missed this one - pity but I see that there have been some classic posts.

However it is this one that disturbs me and I quote it here not to raise the issue for debate but for illustration of a point

Now, anthonycea, as I was the originator of this adsense/adwords theory I should know a little about it should I not?

Thus I find it strange that you should throw it in here without any proof that it is correct or not - and as I have been testing the theory to prove the fact or not over some 4 months now I would hazard a guess that I would know quite a bit about it.

What I can say is that regardless of whether the theory is right or wrong makes very little difference whether or not Google is "spying" or not and even if they were anybody using these sources is actively involving themselves with the utilisation in the full knowledge that this may occur.

Now when you have tested the theory yourself, and published the results, that is when you stand up and use the theory, not before, and if it proves your point then you can tell the world from a point of authority, not before.

And if you feel like having a personal "go" at me as you have at everybody else who has criticised your post - feel free - I'm big enough and ugly enough to take it - but I do resent you using this forum as a ground to "put down" people. This method of personal attack is one of my pet hates - it is bullying - dazzlin pointed it out to you - but I think you missed the point.

 

FoxyWeb, are you sure you are not a comedy writer? I got a great laugh from your post. You certainly are funny, maybe you could help me put up a comedy website. I think with you as a writer it could be a smash.

Did you come here to claim some sort of phony Glory? You the originator, sorry Google was the originator. You have been looking at this for 4 months, wow. You are only about 4 months behind since I have looked at it since 11/2003.

What do you know since you are a fountain of knowledge? Can you post links to threads giving us some background? Foxyweb, next can you explain your motivation for claiming yourself an expert on these matters? Please answer these questions so we can welcome your research into the thread.

 

All I can tell you Anthony is that the page you directed me to must be right when they say "Scheme by the brilliant engineers at Google, designed to fool searchers....". Because they sure have me fooled. I don't believe a word of the conspiracy theory that you are preaching.

Spam is in the eye of the beholder. If Google banned every page that was ever reported to them as spam there would be few if any pages left in their index. All my competitors are using spam techniques and I'm sure they would report that I am.

Now if Google is just brazenly going to ignore these spam reports then why wouldn't they just leave the pages and supposed redirects exactly where they were? I think the site you directed me to shows the ridiculousness of it's own theory when it reports that these sites are infact moving around in the SERPs like any other normal site.

How do you think that is happening? It is happening because there is nothing special about these sites. They are just subject to the same vagaries of the algorithms like any other site or page in the Google index.

 

So Bob the fact that Yahoo banned these sites and a lot of ohter engines took them out of their index since they are all ADSENSE redirection listings mean nothing to you?

Have you seen the ADSENSE BUSINESS page on www.searchwars.squarespace.com where it explains the creation by Google of a new industry. Webmasters are now creating cut and paste websites, template generated simply to churn and burn surfers to more ADSENSE ads. Do you think that it is possible that Google might have even a little bit to do with this?

Do you think that Google would list ADSENSE partners in the SERP's or would it be in their interest to remove them like Yahoo did?

Please address these points in your next post.

 

Well who the hell knows what Yahoo is doing. These are the same people who, for years now, have charged you an unrefundable $300 to review your website for the possibility of including it in their Directory.

These are the same people who now want to charge you $50 per year and 30 cents a click to be listed in their search engine. I would hardly hold them up a paradigms of virtuous commercial practices.

As far as people creating sites to display AdSense ads, again I say so what. This is nothing new or unique to AdSense or Google. People have been creating sites and pages to display banners, and advertising on since the Internet begun. It's called advertising inventory in the trade. There is nothing inherently evil about advertising on the Internet.

And I don't think AdSense advertiser get any special treatment in the SERPs. I sure as hell don't. But AdSense advertisers are by nature aggressive web site marketing people. One would expect that their sites should generally fair pretty well in the SERPs.

Do you think I'm going to display AdSense ads, along with the links and other banners that earn me money, on sites that I make no effort to apply SEO techniques to? That would be stupid. I can only make money if people vist my site.

 

You make good points, one of your best posts ever. But Bob you have not addressed directly my questions to you in most cases, you simply say that it is a conspiracy, well I will tell you that the conspiracy is between Google and their advertising partner Webnox.

You have looked at this situation but maybe out of fear of Google you continue to defend these poor practices that are ruining their business.

Maybe you wish for them to continue to go in the direction they are going, simply the worlds largest PPC search engine, but instead of just admitting that is what they are, they continue to decieve the public into thinking that their results are completely organic.

Can you address if their SERP's are completely organic for us?

 

There you go again - straight up personal attack without even thinking it through. it is called bullying

Not of the adsense/adwords collaboration theory - they deny it happens - so sorry you are wrong, and no I don't come here for glory - I have actually been here quite a while and around seo for longer but I was the originator of the theory of the link between adsense,adwords and serps.

If that is the case publish your findings

I didn't claim to be a fountain of knowledge, I don't claim to be a fountain of knowlege - but there you go again with a sarcastic rebuke at anyone who challenges you!

I didn't claim anything - I said that I was investigating my theory, thats all, it is you who wishes to put me in a position of justifying a motivation and title that you placed on me. I don't think so!

If you satisfactorily answered other persons questions this thread might be about 2 posts long instead of 173 and you would be denied the self gratification that this thread gives you and your wide ranging "assistance" would show up in the true colours that it is of most posts here of questionable value and a few elsewhere.

As for research into this thread - I don't think so - it just is a waste of time - I only came here to point out that this forum does not welcome bullying tactics - and certainly that of personal "put downs".

 

I don't fear Google. First off they don't give a damn about me. So there is nothing to fear. I just don't believe the conspiracy theory you are advancing. I read all the stuff you offer as evidence and I don't believe it. Most of it is weak unsubstantiated innuendo. AND I DON"T BELIEVE IT!

Their SERP results are organic. You have presented no evidence and certainly no proof to the contrary. AdWords are not organic, but everyone knows this. Google, in fact, is one of the better and more responsible search engines because they clearly separate the paid results from the organic results.

I continue to ask you Anthony, what did Google do to you to launch you on this crazy and vindictive crusade? You're as bad as George Bush with his WMD. We know what motivates George, besides the fact that he and his administration are just out right liars. What motivates you Anthony?

 

I think it is called pulling pud Bob

 

FoxyWeb by your posts you prove one thing, that you are not any type of expert, just come around to blow smoke today again?

 

Having already established that I am no expert either,

Do you mind telling me what kind of expert you are Anthony?

 

I don't fear Google. First off they don't give a damn obout me. So there is nothing to fear. I just don't believe the conspiracy theory you are advancing. I read all the stuff you offer as evidence and I don't believe it. Most of it is weak unsubstantiated innuendo. AND I DON"T BELIEVE IT! Quote by Bob


You need proof, even though most of the time you simply respond without doing proper research Bob, I will give you one more Apple since you like to shake my tree.

http://www.searchwars.squarespace.com/display/ShowPage?moduleId=26571

Can you explain why the most respected tech publisher in the industry compares Google to Gator and When U in the article linked in the above page?

The forum is looking forward to your spin on this subject.

Maybe foxyweb can insert more of his brilliant knowledge also?