I would rather live in a Zoo

digitalpoint,
My work here is done.
Thank you some time at your immensely interesting forum,
and I do hope to return to browse when time is less pressing.

Could I add that all your good members are welcome at Spyware Warrior at any time, should they require assistance in any way, or if they have an interest in antispyware,
or if just cruising through for a chat.

Ciao, , and thanks again,
Iceblue

 

Your work will be done at Spyware Warrior also, since you ruined the forum by your censorship. Blue Ice, Suzi will put you on ice when she returns.

Oh and every member on your body is still intact but your legs, can you still walk Blued Ice?

Now Blue Ice comes to tell us all to go and view his censored forum, thanks alot Iced Blues, we will all rush over to the Spyware Warrior Censorship forum to see you hide facts from the public.

It is funny that you say your "Work" is done here. What work?

Oh we did "research on forum spamming" by Anthonycea and we found out all the forums he spammed (that is work), anyone can put in a search for "anthonycea" in any search engine and come up with 800 results, is that "the work" you speak of Blue Iced? Wow, if that is the type of "RESEARCH" that the "STAFF" at Spyware Warrior does maybe IBM will want to aquire the forum next week.

Or are you talking about the censorship "work" you do in hiding true facts about "spyware" from the public, then come here and try to highjack members back to your censored forum?

If that is what you call work, let me give you a Sledge Hammer and put you on the Rock Pile so you can smash some stones for us, that would be real work.

At least we would have something of value then, some pebbles for our driveways.

 

Well after reading this marathon thread it seems to me that it could be boiled down to less than one page;

Anthony - The Toolbar (and anything else Google does) is spyware and/or evil/wicked/based on profit.

Everyone else - HUH??

But let me interject one simple fact that I have not seen mentioned, How can something which does not have access to identification information be called spyware?

IMO its one thing if it reports back to the mothership that some anonymous surfer has visited thus and such site to made thus and such search, so long as there is nothing which reveals the identity of the surfer???

So far as I know the tool bar does not know who is using it.

The other thing which makes me think this is actually a useful thread, is that I have now been convinced of the usefullness of banning some indivduals.

 

Mel, I can't agree with you on this issue. While Anthony continues to fight in this thread -- and he has taken as good as he has given -- he has become a useful and productive contributor in other threads. This has only happened, or been made possible, because of Shawn's tolerance.

The easiest way for people to deal with someone who they think are making outrageous and unsupportable claims is to not give the claims the dignity of a response. If after the first ten posts we had all just ignored this thread Anthony would have been relegated to talking to himself.

However, if we had banned him from the forum we would have lost his contribution to other threads. We must not go through life banning and censoring everyone we don't agree with. The democratic and fair play option is just to ignore them.

 

Mel, this thread was about other members at another forum sending private messages to moderators to get me banned since they could not or would not answer a yes or no question.

So do you agree with that? Members lose a debate based on current events and facts, then proceed to get another member banned because they lost a debate or could not find a way to contest facts.

Now the members here voted my live linking rights away since I am not afraid to stand up for what is right. Is that right also in your opinion? I do not care either way how folks respond, I just present the facts as I see them, if folks get upset it just shows me what side of the issue they are on, it is as simple as that.

And Mel, I agree with you, I have been trying to get Compar banned for the longest time now.

Will everyone please send Shawn your PM so I can begin my "Ban Compar Campaign", thank you for your support, I approve this message

 

To a degree that is true, but there must be limits (not saying that Anthony has reached these limits yet) to what individuals can post and what our proper responses should be.

For example if someone starts posting libelous information about another and that person does not refute it then it is assumed to be true, and thus damages that person.

If someone says Google is spying on you as a part of some grand consipiracy and we do not refute it, someone coming along at a later date will (rightly IMO) assume that the members of the forum must agree with this, since we did not disagree.

If a forum is to be a place for the exchange of useful information then information that is not useful or is misleading must be pointed out and explained away.

Its true enough that ignoring some things will cause the clamor to cease, but are we willing to pay that price to get the peace?

 

This is not something that the members should/could be able to do, it is an action reserved for the owners and/or moderators of the forum, and what actions they take is strictly up to the image they wish to project and their own best judgement. It is however my opinion that the winner or loser of an argument may apear different depending on where you sit. I would also like to feel that I have the ability to express my opinion on matters that may distract from the overall usefulness of the forum.

If there has been a vote of the members to take some action or other, I am not aware of it and certainly have not voted on it, but I do not agree that any post on any topic is the right of anyone who walks in the virtual door.

What I find strange is that in some forums, I see your posts as informed and polite and in others fanatical and impolite. Are there two of you?

 

Anthony, I have to tell you in all due respect, that I have had this same question, that Mel poses, go through my mind.

I have some experience with Manic Depressive or Bipolar disorders. You do seem to exhibit some of the classic symptoms. Have you ever sought help for these mood swings?

 

Well...

I'm not so sure... I get the impression that anthony is just pretty clever, and enjoys a bit of an argument.

I hope for you Anthony that you are in fact not depressed because that is a pretty nasty thing to go through. If you are though... I think that you should talk to someone about it. Not necessarially a therapist, just a mate perhaps or a family member. Hell, even PM someone here and let them know how you feel.

It's better than keeping it all pent up...

 

IMO, that's not exactly true. You can't believe everything you read, and the people that do need to evaluate how they process information. The Internet is vast source of information, if you're well known odds are there is info all over the Interent about you that's not true. Speaking about forums, I think it's best that if people are posting misleading or innaccurate information about you to just ignore it - responding to it almost encourages more of the same.

Look at any celebrity for example - just about every one of them has hundreds, if not thousands of websites about them full of misinformation. The same applies to politicians. It's very rare that any of these people try and "defend" themselves in this arena, they just let it go.

Goggle is a good example too. They get their fair share of bashing in just about every forum on the Interent, yet they never attempt to refute any of it. Maybe a public statement every so often, but they surely don't come to individual forums and reply to individual posts.

When I see a pile of dog crap on the sidewalk, I just step around it and continue on. Stopping to talk about makes you realize how bad it smells

 

Well being a child of the 1970's post war rebel types like me see things in much different terms than many others, it is funny that I can see the same type of personality traits in others that grew up in that time frame even online when I meet them.

When you are from that era, you have a slant against a lot of institutions that are in power, "peace, love and rock and roll, not war" or as some of the kids today look at it, "sex, drugs and rock and roll" (today it is "crack, crank, sex and rap"). What the hell has happened to us all since Vietnam?

So different strokes for different folks, a lot of the folks from my generation are in power positions in business right now, what other reason would you find using Led Zeppelin as a jingle for Cadillac automobile sales?

So I am just a old rebel, plain and simple, I have been that way since 1975 when all we did in school was go to school to tell the teachers to go to hell and stand outside on "the hill" where all the rebel hippies went to smoke dope.

The teachers put us all out there because they could do nothing with the kids at that time after the war. It was a time of great resistance against the government, the war and any authority in general.

So I can play both sides of the fence, I can be a rebel, or it is easy for me to see a business that is doing what is right and just.

But if a company abuses its power like the government did and does today by sending folks into war for who knows what "OIL MONEY" or even some of the issues that some company that I like to discuss here on forums does.

I can get up in arms about it in a hurry.

If that is what you call depression then I guess that is what you call it.

This is what forum is about, different folks expressing differing views.

That is the only reason most of us come back to Digital Point, if Shawn were to start censoring content on a grand scale, few would bother posting here.

So you have to accept what others bring forth, if you do not like the subject matter, bring your points in to the discussion, but there is no need to give any member the "death penalty" for bringing issues to light.

If your right to privacy is under threat and I bring it to light, it is amazing to see folks that really couldn't care less and are willing to give away their rights because they "like" a company that is exactly that, "a company", a for profit company that will stretch the law as far as they can for profits sake to see how far they can take it before it breaks.

Hey I may be somewhat of a nut, but they used to tell Henry Ford he was a nut when he and some others would tell them that the automobile would replace the horse and buggy.

 

Just remember that when you visit this "asylum", there are plenty of us who "live" here and Shawn runs the place!

That is all we ask...be considerate enough to stick to facts and, when you introduce your "humor", keep it close enough to reality so others are less likely to be hurt. I don't believe that is too much to ask Anthony. Do you?

 

This is not true - this is your mind telling you so.

And, just while I am here, you attacked me in another thread without reason, when I said that it was nice to see you contributing nicely.

What a fool I am!

Compar is right

 

VA, how are you doing. It seems you are a fun loving person, I see the picture on your posts, I would just like to know which one you are, the one waving or the one in the suit?

Yeah, you are not the only one that has missed out on the comedy bit thinking I was serious, Compar got on my back in another thread that I thought was all in jest and stung me bad about some of my comments when I was just poking fun at Shawn (VS's Master of the Universe thread).

So I get the message, to go from deadly serious to completely joking is hard for some to relate to.

I will try to keep that in mind and use some smilies or something in the future to make things a bit more clear.

Guilty as charged.

 

No attack Foxy, I agree with you when you are right, I stated that in the thread on the SEO firm.

I was just responding to what you said, not an attack, don't be so sensitive.

All I said was that I have pointed out good things on issues from the day I came here, no attack on you Foxy. I just mentioned you are starting to see these things. That is not an attack on you, please forgive me if I look like a fool once in a while.

I thank you for the compliment, I know you have much to offer also and am sorry if you are offended, please do not be, I know I can rub some folks the wrong way and I will work on using more tact in the future, feel free to sock it to me if you see me hurting you or any other member.

I can take it if you feel it is needed.

 

The buyout of Applied Semantics gave them great keyword matching technology Shawn, in addition to that, the longer threads are on forums means they end up being CT's eventually.

If it has to do with the internet it will end in a CT when the threads get long, who is suing who, who stole from who, who is telling lies to who.

Must be that Vietnam war talk that brought about the CT Ads.

My opinion is that there is a CT working between Google and you Shawn.

 

Now I assume Anthony, because I try to give you every break I can, that that is supposed to be funny. But can you explain the humour? It just seems like a pointless banal comment to me?

First of all I've never seen any evidence on this forum of you and Shawn developing the type of comaradie that would support or justify all the shots that you take at him. I'm ready to believe that they are all in good hearted jest, but frankly none of them have ever made be crack a smile. Most of them have simply resulted in me saying "what the f**k" does that mean?".

 

Compar do I have to continue to explain my jokes to you, I think by your post you know it was given in jest, just like my "Ban Compar Campaign", you did not take that serious, why the shots at Shawn?

Did you crack a smile on the "Ban Compar Campaign"?

 

No, actually I wished that I lived in the USA and could buy an assault rifle at the corner store. Now that is a joke.

I realized that the "Ban Compar Campaign" was an attempt at humor. I didn't understand the humor because I had been defending you, and advocating not banning people. So a Campaign to nominate me for the head of the ACLU or some such thing would have been funny or ridiculous, but more in context.