I was scammed, what can I do?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by notxursuperman, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. #1
    So my main form of Clickbank success is through PPC and paid advertising.

    The site I'm banner advertising on changed out my hoplink to theirs.

    This is a site where I pay to have my banner up and it's brought me success... seriously took me many failures to get a successful banner campain... I recently broke even about 3 weeks ago(from this single product).

    Anyways... the traffic for this particular product went from 200-300 a day(1-3 sale a day) to 0 traffic. A bit confused I weighted it out and decided to sleep on it. I'm awake today and still no traffic. Like I said, the site owner switched out my hoplink. I clicked on my banner and it had someone elses affiliate code... sure enough I click on the buy now and it's their affiliate code on clickbank too.

    Is there anythign I can do to get them banned from clickbank for bad ethics, bad business, and scamming me? They also have adsense on their site, and man, i would love to shut down all their income revenues. How devious is this.

    What can I do? I feel so violated.
     
    notxursuperman, Sep 26, 2009 IP
  2. theapparatus

    theapparatus Peon

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    Why not send them an email asking that what has occurring and pointing out with specifics that there's an issue.

    It's really not cool to start accusing someone of scamming if you first haven't approached them about the issue, just in case it;s a simple mistake or miscommuncation.

    I would mention that you've paid for that placement and include any transaction numbers and dates involved.
     
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  3. notxursuperman

    notxursuperman Peon

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    The thing is... someone would have had to deliberately change my hoplink.... it wouldn't change itself. I tried contacting them and have had no luck(I just sent them an e-mail with our agreement & transactions along with their TOS). I feel scammed, but I'm not mentioning the site in case their was error as in someone hacking them to simply change the hoplink.

    But the point is... if it's deliberately done and I continue to get no response... Is there something clickbank can do?
     
    notxursuperman, Sep 26, 2009 IP
  4. snakeair

    snakeair Notable Member

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    Clickbank can not do anything for you. They can not babysit every website that advertises clickbank hoplinks. Each website has there own TOS or rules for advertising on there site. Since you read them and know them, just try to find more ways to contact the owner besides emailing him. Does this person have a AIM account, yahoo messenger?

    How long ago did you contact this person? It's the weekend and well most people are not online 24/7 so be patient this weekend for a response and try again on Monday if you do not here anything. Do not mention the site to anyone till you get a response back. Then take it from there.... could be a mixup and person edit the wrong banner
     
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    theapparatus Peon

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    Agreed but the person who changed it may not have known that it was a sponsored link. Or they could have thought the time period had run out. Or it may be a design backup from before your purchase. Or a hundred other things.

    Do remember it is the weekend. Some folks have lives. Scary thought, isn't it?

    I wish you luck,
    -drmike
     
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  6. notxursuperman

    notxursuperman Peon

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    Thanks for the advice snakeair... would never throw someone under the bus without proof.

    This has never happened to me and it was a little shocking. Oh well, I figure if my links do
    not get fixed by next week, then this particular campaign will be more profitable as I will just
    have to have Chase Bank reverse charges and I will apply it to my PPC campaigning(which has been
    consistently converting.)

    Let's get back to making that dollar guys. This topic is old news... If something interesting happens,
    I'll add a reply. Take care.
     
    notxursuperman, Sep 26, 2009 IP
  7. NCMedia

    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    You need to open a can of whoopass, document EVERYTHING, screen shots, rolled over screenshots or just get a camtasia vid and and walkthrough everything catching your culprit live in action.

    From here you have two options: 1. Confront them, tell them you've documented everything and are ready to make this public if they don't honor your original agreement. or 2. Let them getaway with it on purpose, while documenting the whole thing, wait until they make some money on it, and then confront them with a bunch more proof.

    They can probably just say 'my site got hacked' or some other shite, and I doubt you'll be taking this to litigation over something so small but if you are a man of principle and simply want to make sure nobody else gets scammed too, make a video and expose the crap out of him painting a negative justified tone of his site, after he disagrees of course... OR - Forget about your spot, your loss, go make some money in the time you would have invested in teaching this guy a lesson (if it was me, fcuk money sometimes principle is more important, I would dedicate 'some' time to it just so I didn't take it lying down totally).

    N.
     
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  8. killadiver

    killadiver Peon

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    did you try reuploading the hoplink then add extra security to your website.
     
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    rolf Active Member

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    Who designed the banner? If they use yours without permission that's clearly wrong.

    Even if this has not happened, write to CB and explain your long relationship, investing money in your campaigns. It is dirty tricks this site has done, CB might shut down their account.
     
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    MedicAffiliate Peon

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    I doubt CB would step in...affiliate competition can only be good for their business and he isn't doing anything outright illegal with their system. But you can register ripoff reports, consumer complaints and suchwhich that will prevent this dude from getting ads from anyone ever again. Even adsense can be alerted to his malpractice and you can even request an adsense investigation probably claiming he cheats advertisers and the like and that they should take a closer look...that will atleast block his id for a few weeks.
     
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    aladinhw Active Member

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    Well, Clickbank has nothing to do with this. Now the only thing that you can do is :
    If that didn't work then Destroy their reputation, start posting what happened (with proofs) in blogs and forums and everywhere. Send them the links of your posts to show them that you're not joking and that you're gonna keep destroying their reputation till they respect you and put back your Hoplink. Also you can send your storie to their hosting company if you want ..

    If all that didn't work too , then Forgive and forget , anything else that you'll do is just a waste of time

    And remember , It's their website , they can do whatever they want.

    You're not the first or the last one that have been scammed online. It happens all the time. There is no " Online police " to stop them. A lot of sites that are made just to scam people like " Surfjunky.com " ( It's running for more then 5 years now ), and believe me No one cares.
     
    aladinhw, Sep 27, 2009 IP