I want to Learn how to build websites

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by hadeedg, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. Iriathz

    Iriathz Peon

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    #21
    Yeah, do that, it's a basic template of what you can use. What program are you using? Notepad? Dreamweaver?
    Go here for a list of tags etc: http://www.web-source.net/html_codes_chart.htm
     
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  2. ashvaj

    ashvaj Active Member

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    #22
    Learning the melancholic way will make you perfect. Better go slow and learn step by step. I would also recommend learning from lessons at W3school.com
    That is the standard way.
     
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  3. Dan Schulz

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    #23
    The problem with sites like w3schools.com and Tizag is that they're inaccurate at best, and downright WRONG at worst with their tutorials.

    Seriously, they need to hire an editor.
     
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  4. Loganet

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    #24
    I decided that I need to learn how to create webpages, too. I have some HTML experience. I thought that I should go out and buy Dreamweaver and a good book. I believe that you can get a student version for under $200? What is everyone else using?
     
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  5. HypertextFever

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    #25
    I agree... learn by doing.

    When you get stuck, or want to do something else, Google it.
     
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  6. Dan Schulz

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    #26
    Logan, don't waste your time or money with Dreamweaver. Trust me. I had Dreamweaver MX, and it was next to useless. Even now, I have to fix a lot of bad code that was barfed up by Dreamweaver, and that POS program's supposedly gotten BETTER since MX came out.

    Right now I'm using Edit+ which costs $30 (though there is a 30 day trial version, which will work afterword but will nag you to fork over the $30 and get the activation key). It's available at www.editplus.com
     
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  7. HypertextFever

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    #27
    I couldn't agree with this more.

    I learned with Dreamweaver, and it taught me all the wrong ways to build web pages.

    Maybe they've adapted new standards into their WYSIWYG, but I'm not sure since I just use a text editor.

    I use Notepad++, which is free. (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)

    I used to use TextPad ($30 or so) but I like Notepad++ better.

    Sometimes it's nice to use a WYSIWYG (rarely) for "quickies" (or gigantic tables), in which case I use the FCK demo lol (http://www.fckeditor.net/demo)

    P.S. - The FCK demo has a "source" button on the top left, and a "fullscreen" button near the bottom right.
     
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  8. Loganet

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    #28
    Thanks Dan, Hypertext! I'm new to this and only know about the commercial products. Its great to hear about what everyone else is using.
     
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  9. Dan Schulz

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    #29
    No problem. There are plenty of free text editors out there; even Notepad (cringe) will work.

    How much experience with (X)HTML and CSS do you have anyway?
     
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  11. Dan Schulz

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    #31
    I'll recommend HTML Dog (home of the "Sons of Suckerfish" dropdown menu), but not the others.
     
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    #32
    You could try Nvu, it's a free WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) html editor. It's good when you're learning to see what it is you're actually coding.
    go to nvu.com and download the editor for free. Good luck :)
     
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  13. Loganet

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    #33
    Dan,

    None! I first learning HTML when the WWW first came out. But things were evolving so quickly, I couldn't keep up: html; dynamic html; xhtml; java; asp!

    Plus, I don't have any graphics skills to populate my websites either, so I didn't see the point in pursuing it.

    I still don't know how people keep up now? Flash; Cold Fusion; PHP;

    I'm a network admin, so I'm familiar with the industry. For instance, I had a "web designer" for one of our clients blame us because her code didn't work on our servers. She had googled a script for a on-line form and pasted it to her website. The only problem was, the script she copied was for linux servers and ours were Windows servers and she wanted us to fix the problem!~:confused:
     
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  14. Dan Schulz

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    #34
    Ok, that says a lot. You're going to want to read Build Your Own Web Site the Right Way Using HTML & CSS by Ian Lloyd [link: SitePoint.com]. While the book is solid, there are a couple recommendations I would like to make, and they are to download Opera and Safari 3 Public Beta.

    You may also be interested in reading Designing With Web Standards, 2nd Edition by Jeffrey Zeldman [link: zeldman.com] and Don't Make Me Think! A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability, 2nd Edition by Steve Krug [link: sensible.com].

    As far as graphics go, I really can't help you out much, other than suggesting you read The Principles of Beautiful Web Design by Jason Beaird [link: SitePoint.com], and possibly The Photoshop Anthology by Corrie Haffly [link: SitePoint.com].
     
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