i think we know...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by JdpWorld, Mar 29, 2006.

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    "For thousands of years we have dreamed in our hearts of a greater Israel, an entire land of Israel, and such a country will always remain a dream in our hearts," Olmert said early Wednesday at a victory rally.


    i think we know where this is going...
     
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  2. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Everybody get your guns cleaned and your boots on... world war 3 is coming
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    It simply means that Israel is not going to put up with terrorist actions against its state namely by Palestinians.

    It could be argued logically that World War III has already happened (Cold War). :D

    I think he also said something like the Palestinians should adjust their expectations in regards to land.
     
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  4. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Yet they have no problem countering terrorism with,.... more terrorism. :cool:
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    So you are calling the total war in Iraq led, by in large, the United States of America, an act terrorism?

    Interesting.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Ya, Israel keeps strapping bombs on little kids and sending them into palistinian territory to "terrorize" its neighbors... Sure.. see it all the time.... THen they send them to the US and bomb our subways too. Oh and don't forget the Jews took down the towers didn't they!!!

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
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  7. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Are the people of Iraq not terrified when we dropped bombs all over their homes and business?

    Are the people of Iraq not terrified when our tanks and soldiers come shooting up their homes and streets?

    Are the people of Iraq not terrified as their children, mothers, fathers and friends are murdered on a daily basis?

    I could go on like this for a long time, but you probably get the point by now. Now lets read the definition of "terrorism"....

    Hmmm..... and another....
    How anyone can read those definitions of terrorism, and convince themselves that America's invasion of Iraq is anything less than .... is beyond me? :confused:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Open your eyes dumbass... http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ :rolleyes:

    715 Palestinian children killed by Israelis since Sept. 29, 2000
    3,837 Palestinians killed by Israelis since Sept 29, 2000
    29,639 Palestinians have been injured by Israelis since September 29, 2000
    9,184 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel
    4,170 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since September 29, 2000

    The U.S. gives $15,139,178 per day to the Israeli government and military

    Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    WHHAAAAAA...the jews are protecting themselves...WAAAHHHHH
    cry me a river already. Nobody feels bad for the palestinians, they bring it on themselves.

    Maybe the jews arent being hard enough, maybe they should double all those numbers above, see if that gets through the thick ass heads of palestinians
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Yeh... killing 715 children is "protecting" themselves...

    Yes you're right. Stealing their land and homes wasn't enough, we need to kill their children too!

    It's morons like you that are the REASON we are hated in the arab world. It's morons with your mentallity that are the REASON any so called "terrorists" want to kill Americans...
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Who's land is it? The attacks are happening in the sovereign state of Israel. Do you mean the land the Palestinians once owned? How about before them? How far back do we go?

    Terrorism is an action where the main target is civilians and the sole purpose is to scare the public (usually to invoke some sort of political action). In Israel's case, they are targeting people they believe to be participants in groups that sponsor and/or carry out terrorism. The fact they sometimes get it wrong or that there's collateral damage does not fit the description of Terrorism.

    As to the total war in Iraq, that it not a terrorist activity. The main objective is regime change and not to scare the public. It is not a terrorist activity. You can argue that either event is wrong, not justified and so forth, but using the word "terrorism" as a blanket catch-all is not wise.

    As to the Palestinians bringing it upon themselves, well that's just an uneducated generalized statement. You mean to tell me that every single Palestinians is strapping bombs to themselves? While, many to most Palestinians hate the Jews, they are not all engaged in militant action. When we stop looking at individuals and start stratifying, we get in trouble.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Now we know where yo-yo is coming from.
     
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    We do? I don't think he even knows. hence the name yoyo

    Funny how some want to send their kids out with weapons or in the middle of a battle field as a sacrifice.... I suppose they can get 20 virgins or something credited on their behalf... lame....

    I hate hearing that the kids die innocently when the parents put them in the area on purpose - in hopes to make the Israelis stop shooting or to die to stir up people to sympathize with them. It is a type of game to them. (them as used for those who believe it is OK to sacrifice their children for a cause)
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Just gave you the definition of terrorism, it's not what YOU would LIKE for it to be, it is what it is:

    I think that's rock solid, according to it--
    Who can commit terrorism: Governments can
    Who can they Terrorize: Any Government AND/OR the public
    How they terorrize: use of force, violence or threats
    Why they terorrize: Political, religious or ideological reasons

    How can you read that definition and say what we've done in Iraq is any different? We made threats and used force with the intention of influencing a government.
     
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    That is almost a 6 year timespan. Still not good, but how many were killed under Saddam's regime each year for comparison's sake?
     
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    How many were killed for the sake of oil?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    What does Iraq have anything to do with Isreal's killing of children? :rolleyes: There is no comparison to make.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    I am glad you can cut and paste. Now, please run over to the United Nations and tell them how concrete your definition is. It will finally end all the intillectual discussion and debate on the matter.

    I guess that's the problem. Educated people with Political Science degrees were wasting time trying to refine a complicated issue to be less abstract when the answer was just a Google away.

    I would re-read what I said. Here, I will post it for you:
    That's the basic concept. Notice, I did not say who could and could not conduct terrorism? Sure, I could of elaborated and talked about State Terrorism and State Sponsored Terrorism, but I figured your googling would lead you to those.

    Next time, read what you are replying to and understand what you cut and paste.
     
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    We will defeat them.
     
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    Market
    that's total BS. You're pretty much saying blowing up the white house isn't terrorism because the main target isn't civilians... that pretty much nullifies your entire argument :rolleyes:
     
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