I think something's wrong about my PR

My site's been open since early April and still a 0. Is that normal?

...Yes I have backlinks. A lot of them and I rank reasonably well in SERPS for a site that is only about 4 months old. The only reason I care about my PR now is because I think something is going on that is wrong.

Edit: WHOA!! I just ran a search for this topic on google to get more info and THIS THREAD just came up! Power of google is much more immediate now! I swear I only posted this minutes ago!

 

you need not "nofollow" backlinks from other PR sites

 

I got those. Lots of them. I mean hundreds of sites. And many of them 4 and up. I add a couple of juicy new ones most days too...still no change, so is it normal to still be a 0 with this. and they are not nofollow I checked.

 

1) make sure your link dose not have rel="nofollow" attribute in the html source
2) make sure the page where the link is on is indexed and has PR (the PR of the page the link is on not the site PR)
3) wait for your PR to update

 

I have the same problem with a site that I made in March.
So far I've got more than 5500 backlinks, most of which are do-follow and some of which are high PR (3,4 and 5)....and still my site is a PR0

Google sometimes has mysterious ways

 

with 5500 backlinks, I am afraid, you have overdone it and google marked your site for backlink slamming. You should not build backlinks that fast!

 

It's not just about backlinks, you need lots of great content too. Also make sure your not linking to any bad sites and use nofollow site links to 'contain' the link juice on the pages that are relevant.

 

If Google punished me for having too many backlinks then why I am ranked for 4 different keywords in the 1-7 positions, over ranking sites with PR5?
I don't think Google punishes anybody because of backlinks...it would be too easy to ruin your competitors by pointing 1-2k links to them in one day

 

right same here i am ranking reasonably well for some of my keywords, so it acts like a higher PR site but it is not one. but no, i am not showing up as penalised in the SERPs and rightfully so as i know i have no reason to be, my site is good quality.

I am not linking to anything questionable, so much so, in fact, i am so careful, that we even ban URLs of any kind of attack sites so they CANNOT be linked to. And i do not link to spammy places, you see i have links out to other forums mostly, other RPGs almost all of them.

the links to me are not nofollow! i checked each one that I am aware of . {i am sure people link to me out there, that I don't know of, but nofollow links don't harm, they just don't help and so I know that I got a lot of big juicy ones linking to me that are perfectly good links and relevant ones too and many are high PR like a 4+.} and these links are on the front page.

I checked them by the firefox nodofollow plugin or if that doesn't show it i view source.

 

Come on people... Everyone knows that the Google PageRank (Google PR) that shows in the Google toolbar is NOT your URL's "actual" page rank and that the PR shown there is typically MONTHS out-of-date. It is the "actual" PR that you cannot see (and that is updated constantly) that matters for ranking. That little green PR bar in the Google Toolbar is only a mapping of the "actual" PR from some time in the past. It's like looking at a star in the night sky. That star may already have burned out, yet you are still looking at its light as it travels from hundreds of lightyears away. You are seeing an OLD PR.

Rest assured that if you have hundreds or thousands of followed links from URLs on other sites and those URLs are themselves indexed at Google then the next time Google publishes a Toolbar PR update, your URLs PR should jump. Unfortunately this doesn't "usually" happen but once every few months.

 

Right and by now I am thinking I should be showing an update by now. I started out as n/a back in the beginning of april, then went to a 0 in June, by then i had many backlinks already. I have even more now and still no change from a 0. back when i noticed the 0 i was told that;s just google figuring out that I exist XD

if that really is just my real PR and there is no fishy business, then i dont care. but it seems weird and like something is wrong.

so if you started a site in the start of april, promoted it heavily and in legit ways, would you be surprised if it was still a 0 today?

 

PageRank only gets updated publicly every 3 or 4 months
(despite what the more rabid dp contributors say, it means feck all, and Google update the toolbar when they can remember to do it, there's no timetable)
So - in April you were N/A because you hadn't been rated - in June you got a 0 - they looked at you, you didn't have much to impress them.
So if I started a site 4 months ago, I wouldn't expect to have any PageRank yet.

But it could just be because they hate you, you know. Just because you're paranoid that doesn't mean Google aren't planning to ban from their index for all time.

 

As Magda implied... there is a lag in updates. Even if Google updates PR today, you are probably looking at a representation of what your PR was a few weeks ago, maybe even a month before the update is published. It likely takes them a few weeks to backup their entire index of URLsand then run a process to map every single URL's "actual" PR to a 0-10 value to display as the toolbar PR.

If your site's home page had a toolbar value of n/a in April because it likely not indexed the last time they took a snapshot of their index and mapped actual PRs to Toolbar PR before publishing it.

In June you likely got bumped to 0 because sometime in May when they took a snapshot of their index and mapped actual PRs to Toolbar PRs, your site didn't have very many links that Google knew about (or a lot of the pages where the links appeared were not themselves indexed).

FYI It gets expontially harder to get to the next Toolbar PR because the mapping/scaling from actual PR to Toolbar PR is based on a logrithmic scale. So it's much easier to get from 0 to 1 than it will be to get from 1 to 2 and so on.

I would recommend you forget about the little green PR bar. Continue to write content and to build links. Focus on how your pages are ranking for their targeted keyword phrases and how much traffic you're getting. The PR will take care of itself.

 

That makes no sense because by the time June came around I already had tonnes of links. Good ones. I already had many by the end of April, actually kicked off the new site with my friend's pr 5 link already linking to me. What does it take to impress them?

I'll be fine as I am because I'm not going to ever be selling links, just wonder what I am doing wrong.

 

There was no real PR-Update since the begin of April.

 

So what happened with my in June when i went from n/a to 0? at the time, i was told, that was not a REAL update. Just google learning that I existed. I never heard of that, but I was like, whatever.

yahoo said my domain got over 117,000 links pointing to it.

i am not worried if my REAL pr is really zero.

I am worried that Google, for some reason, decided they don't like me and gave me a fake zero for a penalty. And that if they hate me that much then removing me altogether may not be too far behind.

That is scary because I got no crap like doorway pages, duplicate content, no MFA or scraper crap this is a real forum with a community over 5 years old and content that old too, that was moved from an old server to a new one and all the links got suddenly changed over. Thinking maybe google didn't like that? That seems kind of picky esp since it was a totally legit reason. We moved. Why leave the links pointing to a deleted site?

Because we couldn't 301 it I've gone on this marketing campaign but again I don't spam. The links are legit and most are on relevant sites.

 

check if take links form spamy site and with no follow more on you should take links theme related

 

....see my posts above, they are not nofollow, they are real links on legit and mostly related pages. very few are unrelated. And none are in bad neighbourhoods.

 

Fast indexing is one of the main advantages of Google Caffeine so that is normal.

 

unless you are buying links on sites that openly sell blog posts and mass amounts of links openly you will get PR in due time. Just be careful about adding 1000's of the same type of links all at once. Variety.. it's the spice of life!