I think PageRank of a webpage is a bunch of CRAP

Discussion in 'Google' started by DinoCagney, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. #1
    Ok I think Im going to ignite a big argument here....

    But I'm starting to think.... the Pagerank of a webpage is a bunch of CRAP!!!

    It's the Pagerank of the HOMEPAGE that matters.


    You can't say that a PR1 page from Whitehouse.gov is worth less than a crappy PR3 directory

    A pr1 from Whitehouse gov (homepage pr10) I bet would beat the hell out of 40+ PR3 directories


    The pagerank of a site is defintely crap --- I've seen too many examples why

    If I were you guys --- I'd worry about the PR of the actual site giving the backlink

    What do you guys think???
     
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  2. ClickCutter

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    in my experience PR is not that big deal. I know a site which has PR3 with virtually no inboound links and it ranks on many major keywords in GG in the niche. So, PR or not PR that is the question. Let's see what other have to say.
     
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    I think a PR1 Whitehouse gov page have more google "trust rank" than 40+ PR3 directories combined.

    So for SERPS the Whitehouse gov page will do more for your site than many directories, but if you are only after pagerank... - 40+ PR3 directory links will give you more pagerank than just one PR1 gov page.
     
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    PR of any page means nothing except for adding advertising clout and having the ability to pass on PR elsewhere.

    My PR1 homepage appears higher up on search results than some PR3-PR4 pages for the same keywords.
     
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  5. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    A link from PR1 page on any website is a link from a PR1 page, the more relevant the webpage content is the more value the link will pass.. no matter if it's a .gov website or even .edu all links are links.

    However if this PR1 page is a part from a PR10 website, then the PR value is calculated based on the links this page have in particular, and finally will pass PR value in only if it's a dofollow link for sure.

    In my opinion I think PR is one of the most important factors to rank websites in Google.
     
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    rentdn Well-Known Member

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    I think that PR is important factor too , my bidding directory in my link sig was PR5 , but after recent PR update it became PR6 and I have to say that traffic growht from search engines was about 40% . In generally i think that PR is not the only factor for good rankings in SE , but definitely it is one of the most important factors which should not be ignored in any way
     
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    The PR of the incoming page or the site doesn't matter that much...unless you care about the PR of your own page. What matters is the relevance of the page to yours. Google has been shifting away from PR and towards relevance and related links to generate their search results. Get your on page optimization done, then get links from others in your niche and you'll rise in the SERPs regardless of their PR.
     
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  9. malcolm1

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    I tend to disagree...

    One of our better directories Sleek finally got back a PR rank after 1 year
    without it (stripped) and the traffic has since gotten better as the alexa is showing
    it at 200,000 but thats due to other directory owners and webmasters whom chase PR.

    That directory always got indexed good and it never stopped even after the PR was stripped
    as google still sent traffic to it regardless of it had it or not.

    I only see PR as a tool by a third party with little to NO significance on actual content


    laterz
    malcolm
     
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  10. AngelaE8654

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    I've gotten a lot of arguments about this, but I completely agree. I think that what really matters is the quality and ranking of the site itself, not just the page on which your link is. That's why it's "Authority Sites" that make a difference, not "Authority Pages".

    Stephan Spencer: OK. So, I guess, a follow on to that would be: a .edu and .gov link, and so forth, has, typically, a more pristine link neighborhood, so it is not just about the PageRank, right? The link neighborhood comes into play.

    Matt Cutts: That is a little bit of a "secret sauce" question, so I am not going to go into how much we do trust that sort of stuff.

    Stephan Spencer: OK. I am going to slap my wrist now. Ouch, ouch!​

    See Interview Here

     
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    There are somehow weaknesses in the page ranking system as it doesn't give a true indication when comparing between inner pages. Don't forget sometimes, I could see even inner pages have higher PR than the home page itself and I'm wondering how they managed to come up with this.
    Anyway, my concern has always been.... as long as the serp is ok, I don't really bother much about PR.
     
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  12. dwayne12

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    Pr isn't really an important factor in getting top position in search engines. Google changed it's algorithms sometime ago which basically made PR require other factors to determine how good your site is. PR is no more than a back linking grade.

    If you want better positioning, you need the traffic and quality content/back links, it's not about PR. It hasn't been about PR for sometime now.
     
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  13. DinoCagney

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    Yes -- that's what I figured --- relevant "important" sites that link to you helps your SERPs, not factors of pagerank......

    What I am after = geting high on the SERP's

    The pagerank of my site doesnt matter to me if its PR2 or PR8
     
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    dwayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. When you think about it, PageRank is not really a PageRank it's more of a popularity contest instead. PageRank is Google's Alexa rating in simplistic terms.
     
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