I think everyone should boycot adsense lol

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by bigrollerdave, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. bigrollerdave

    bigrollerdave Well-Known Member

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    #41
    750 clicks - 15.30$ so far today.

    I know it would never be feasible nor would I want to do it. As much as I hate google for not showing us publishers any love, they are still a business. All business's want one thing money. If that means google has to ignore us to make more money so be it I understand why they do it. I just wish they wouldn't do things like that.

    I suppose, but I've ran into as many errors with linux as I have with windows. I run both on my pc but I just use linux for messing around with and that's about it.
     
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    andre75 Peon

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    #42
    This month commission junction and Adsense actually go head to head on my site, while Adsense still has the more prominent placement. If this trend continues, i will put up more CJ and remove some Adsense (seems like I got the buying type of visitor, so Adsense should pay more).
    I have been experimenting a little with Ad Delivery systems. The only thing I am struggling with is context sensitivity (would be nice to be able to rig this up for CJ to boost conversion).
     
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    Adpubster Peon

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    #43
    Not sure about linux per se since I have only dabbled in it. My Solaris boxes have been extremely stable, though. I think my record is a bit over 2 years uptime with considerable load at times. I've yet to see a perfect OS, though.
     
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    axlarry Notable Member

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    #44
    This can be done actually. If only there's other PPC company to sponsor the action. Why don't you try contact adbrite for example, "Hi, I'd like to boycott adsense, will you compensate $1k/day that I used to earn from them and start to use your ads code? I could ask other publishers too if you like the idea"

    What do you think :D
     
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    #45
    they do not have the financial power to fight google and i don t think is fair either.
     
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    #46
    Goolge does not think that they owe only to advertisers. They take good care of their publishers, by providing free blog hosting, free email, free tools for our websites, easy ad implementation, the most targeted contextual ads, free image hosting, maybe even more stuff that I can't really think of right now. The point is that Google is trying to make the publisher's life easier. More happy publishers, more websites displaying their ads, more advertisers. I am not a Google fanboy, but I do wish that I had the brains to invent a system like theirs.
     
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    #47
    I don0t like this. Google is big and strong. AND he is giving us money! Lets not forget that!
     
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    #48
    one thing I can agree. Smart Pricing is not fair as We (the publishers) are not responsible for what happens after the click. We are paid for a CLICK not for a conversion
    They implemented it to fight MFA-s that leave you no choice but to click the ads to leave the crappy site but it hurts the honest publishers allot too :(
    I am talking from the 500+ clicks for $10 point on one of the sites I have
     
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  9. bigrollerdave

    bigrollerdave Well-Known Member

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    #49
    Yeah I think they should have a system like that but dont implement on every site. When they do their little website scans and they come across a mfa site then that site should be smart priced. I don't think everyone should take the hit for it though.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #50
    You can not compare boycotting something you'll buy anyway with something you don't need to buy.

    I do not join in wiht the gas boycots because I'll be buying the gas anyway. So what if I don't buy gas on Tuesday...I'll just get it Monday or Wednesday. If I pull my ads or convince people not to click them, then there is no need to actually click the day before or after, and in many cases, those same ads won't be there on the other visits anyway.

    So that is like comparing apples and oranges. Yeah, both are fruit, but have you ever had an orange from Michigan?

    Since Google holds so much weight, is it safe to assume this quote is why you got banned ;)

    I hope not...

    I'll join a publishers union!
     
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    #51
    You need a vacation and relaxing period or you eill go nuts starting to make this kind of afirmations
     
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    #52
    If you had quality traffic you wouldnt get smart priced. If you were an advertiser you wouldnt want shitty visitors who dont help you at all, would you?
     
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    bigrollerdave Well-Known Member

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    #53
    When I use adwords I increase traffic by 1,000 uniques and I get a few more clicks but not many. I always get charged the same price though and never get money credited back to my account. I don't get why this is? If I'm being smart priced for having bad quality traffic and I advertise in the same niche with the poor traffic quality wouldn't the sites that I'm advertising on be smart priced too? Thus meaning I would get some of my money back? Do I have to complain to google before they give me my money back for bad traffic quality? I think google will laugh at me because I'm not pumping in 1,000's of dollars into adwords every day.
     
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    #54
    Agreed, but why on the entire account?

    I have two main Sites (site A and site B).
    site A gets quality traffic and runs Adsense. site B doesn't get the same quality of traffic. when I put Adsense on site B, my overall earnings go down, even though my impressions tripled and my clicks doubled.
    Thats simply ridiculous. I make more money by NOT putting Adsense on site B.

    However site B gets tons of repeat visitors and would be excellent for a branding campaign (CPM). Adsense isn't smart enough to figure this out and slams site A for the visitors of site B.
     
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    bigrollerdave Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Exactly why the whole account? Also they implemented this system to cutback on the mfa's sites and other worthless sites. So us honest publishers are taking the hit for something that we never did. I know my sites have a low cpc but 1 cent per click average is ridiculous. I would be better off selling my whole network of sites getting 20k uniques a day and replacing it with some turnkey medical site and getting like 5 clicks a day vs. the 2000+ I get now.
     
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    #56
    Dave I really do feel your hatred and confusion I am in the same boat :mad:

    every month, for a week+ my income drops down to $x/day figures.... :rolleyes:

    I own 130+ sites, not all have adsense - but most do.

    I'm sure a couple of the sites DO get smart priced, and that's fine... but my WHOLE ACCOUNT? That's just plain wrong.

    Some of my niches have $4+ clicks, and they come down to 0.20 when that happens...


    Does anyone know when they implemented this "smart pricing" ?
    When I first started adsense I can say I honestly never had this problem - and I loved the program at that time... but now... I am honestly starting to think in another direction for my sites.

    I wonder how much it would cost to get a PPC program coded :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    #57
    Even if all members on DP stopped using Adsense, it wouldn't do much.
     
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    #58
    I recommend going into affiliate marketing or selling text link ads instead.
    I mean 1ct per click is ridiculous (I get way way more, but just because I don't run all sites)
    Sign up with text-link-ads and let them pay you and the rest of it you should do affiliate.
    I am finally getting the hang of it. This month, CJ really outperformed Adsense by about 3/2. Thats not bad, considering that Adsense has more exposure then CJ and that I get a much better CPC then most people.
    I think if I get a bit better, I might remove some Adsense in favor of CJ.
    I am wondering if I could come up with a solution that gives meta tag keywords to CJ webservices, like a poor mans context sensitive ad system. I think that could by far outperform Adsense, since my clicks actually DO convert.
     
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    #59
    Iv just recently been starting to run CJ on a couple of my sites, but I don't think my niche is really right for it (at least the ones iv tried so far) iv gotten hundreds of clicks, but no conversion.

    Any tips on how to improve it?

    On a side note:
    I am not a adsense adwords user, but from my point of view... they aren't paying for conversions, they are paying for clicks - and that is how google should be, and not this smart pricing BS that happens.

    As you can tell im not to happy with it at the moment lol.
     
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    #60
    Egad! It's no wonder you're miffed.
     
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