Good point, but boycotts in general just dont work. You always here people saying "Let's boycott the Gas Stations for a couple of days to hurt the oil companies." But in reality it doesn't hurt them we'll be right back to the pump in a few days as we need the gas to get around. It's like immortality said we depend on Google for income so it hurts us more than them.
That is if anyone joins in to begin with, or few enough do that it doesn't make a difference. Remember back in school passing the note around saying "at 10:40 everyone drop your books on the floor to make a big noise" Man you sure looked stupid when only you and two others did it! A boycott like this would backfire big time. Either you would screw yourself since only 100 people did it, or you would get screwed by Google taking action. Imagine if the stockholders DID pull out. There are things that should be addressed, FanAddict was right with that, and to me, it's not the money or how much percentage Google takes. It's more that there should be a few safeguards in effect to prevent publishers being banned from clickfraud (but only safeguarded if it's no fault of their own) and things of that nature. But to strike because you want a bigger percentage of the pie? No, I don't agree with that. Google has quite an infrastructure to maintain. Serving ads to publishers requires a LOT of resources. And I think they also deserve to maintain a profit margin.
I honestly think a boycott like this would hurt the pockets of the "boycotters" more than the "boycottees" if you know what I mean. It's like throwing a snowball at the sun, but I'm sure would make you feel better after receiving only about 20 cents per click. Is about $800 worth more to you than $10 million is to Google?
I thought you were really happy with adsesne from a different thread/ What kind of niche do you operate?
=) Not much we can do I guess just wait until yahoo fixes all the problems and msn releases their advertising company. Maybe with all 3 up and running they will try to compete with each other? Right now adsense knows they are on top and they can do what ever they please. Yeah, I know it would never work but it sounds good on paper. Nope, maybe you're thinking about ypn. I was doing over 1k a day with ypn back in the day. They are 100% for their advertisers also. No one ever gives us our pat on the back.
bigrollerdave, if you're getting that many clicks (and therefore i assume a lot of visitors and uniques / month) why don't you just negotiate some deals with other advertisers? like someone else said, cut out the middleman...or maybe you've already done this?
I wouldn't even know where to start with that. I do run some cpm companies which do really well. I'm not really worried about how much I make a month I just don't like how google seems to ignore us publishers. I guess that's where my main beef is at.
Wha wha wha?!?! Well, in all seriousness I can see where you're coming from, feeling disrespected as a publisher. But if you want someone to broker a deal between yourself and advertisers, I'd be happy to oblige!
Okay I'll be honest I do care about how much I make a month but that's not why I made this thread. If you can find me some advertisers for my sites I will send a % of that money your way.
adsense has become sooo crappy, it's not even funny. The only reason I'm still using them is because of their ad targeting. I'd drop them in a heartbeat if there were alternatives.
I think a lot of people would if there was an alternative. The only problem is there isn't yet. YPN is a joke they just pretty much made some javascript links without planning anything at all. There is no relevancy in the ads and I don't see them coming out of beta anytime soon. I guess all we can hope for is MSN. Microsoft always seems to listen to everyone or at least tries their best to. Plus I don't think they will be as wrapped up in money as Google is because they already have a ton of money and it hasn't gone to their heads yet.
Good points. YPN is just a big joke - microsoft... MIGHT be OK.. any idea when they are 'expanding' and coming out for all to see?
I'm not sure there were rumors that started 2 years ago at least but no one knows. I couldn't see Microsoft releasing a beta though. I can seem them working out all the bugs them selfs and then releasing it to the public. I could be wrong though who knows. I think when they msn releases theirs and ypn actually works lol it will only mean better payouts for the publishers.
Unfortunately, an adsense publisher as an individual is too small, however, maybe we we publishers should get together and form a union and rise up. We will then have a powerful voice.
Naw, they'd do it like a typical Windoze release lol. Delay the release for some reason, then the release, then the release each month of a whole bunch of fixes, each one of them requiring you to install more stuff on your server, causing everything else to break, culminating with the display of half an ad (most of which is "blue")
That's what I was talking about a ton of publishers all doing in then they will notice us. Why is it that everyone always rips on windows lol? Windows is and always will be the most used operating system. Although linux is starting to get more popular with businesses because i cuts down on costs it just lacks the software windows has.
Here's the problem, though. You announce this boycott for a specified time and specified period. People perk up and think...hmm, if I leave MY ads in place, I bet I get more earnings because there is less competition. How many of you could shut off your ads in a short period of time? Do you have all the code hard coded or "included" in your pages? Not to mention that the entire Eastern Pacific isn't going to shut down their ads for anything. The only ones hurt are the ones that take part and you're left there with your books on the floor and an "Oh crap, what have I done!" look on your face.
Ugh, I am really getting ticked at google for this "smart pricing" crap. Today alone iv had 68 clicks for 2.03 What in the hell is going on? Why does google take it out on us if our visitors aren't buying, etc on the sites they go to? That's what PPA is for, not PPC. I really hope someone steps up and opens up a new system.. I would be the FIRST to join.