I suck BAD at Adwords. Need tips ASAP.

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by Exilus, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. #1
    Im in the Clickbank industry and i have been getting a steady 60-100$/day revenues from custom banner advertising with download membership sites.

    However when it comes to promoting e-books or such with Adwords, Im bad. Very.


    Bad at getting keywords (max 2k impressions daily on my campaigns w/ avg pos 5-16 and 0.45 CPC)
    Bad at writing ads (0.5-2% CTR)
    Bad at converting (bout 1:150 conversion)

    Ive bought and read Adwords Miracles, however the techniques listed in there seem to be out-dated since 2006.

    Even Copy-The-Top-Ads method gets me a 1% CTR.

    I need help before i waste more money >.<

    Thanks
     
    Exilus, Apr 1, 2008 IP
  2. robertpriolo

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    stats are not bad unless you are not making any conversions. Focus less on stats and more on conversions.

    Check to see if your QS is poor. If it is then you have some work to do. If not, then you are fine, just keep optimizing. You can't always make a winning campaign on the first try, it takes trial and error. Even for professionals, only difference is we learn to optimize quickly
     
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  3. Exilus

    Exilus Banned

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    How do you check QS?
     
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    Login to your google account

    Click on Campaign >> Adgroup >> Keyword Tab >> hover over the magnifying glass >> Click Quality score
     
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    So, anyone have a good source for (2008 concepts)fixing a poor QS? I justed started an ad to promote an aff ebook as ramp up for my own launch. Ad copy is relevant but landing page is "Poor". Google's stock message says "not relevant blah blah..) but the page is pretty well SEO'd.

    Thoughts
     
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    SEO = No relevance to Adwords

    If you like I will take a look at your landing page PM for details
     
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  8. Exilus

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    well thats the problem. my relevance is always "great" but my ctr is at 1%, and after a day or two it falls to "poor".
     
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    The problem is adwords does not like ebook sales pages anymore. You can do whatever you want, your qs will never move. They don't like them and don't want them promoted anymore. Sure ads still exist for them, but those are all grandfathered ones.

    The best way to sell ebooks is to an email list that you build.

    There are other ways to make a lot more money then pimping ebooks on adwords though...
     
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    There is nothing wrong with ebook sites.

    He just needs to establish credibility, provide privacy policy, spam free, sitemap and etc...
     
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    Tsk tsk...

    I bolded the part where they mention ebook sites.
     
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    If you read that correctly it says

    eBook sites that show frequent ads


    nothing about just ebook sites.
     
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    HI,

    I think some work is needed.

    Position 5-16 is not best to get a good CTR. Need to work on this.
    0.45 CPC I consider this a hight price. Are your keywords relevant to your ad and to your landing page...
    0.5-2% CTR. Getting a better position should help if your ad is grabbing the attention.

    Wish you success
     
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    Hi,

    Maybe the following tips can help you. These are some tips from an article I wrote some time ago. They are still relevant today.

    Understand the link between keywords, your ads and your website.
    This is the golden rule for Adwords.


    Google is all about relevancy.

    Google wants to be sure that when one of its customers searches for something that they find websites that are relevant to that search. So you need to make sure that your list of keywords in your adgroup work well with the ads you have set for that adgroup AND that the page you send visitors to when they click on you ad also has relevancy to the list of keywords.

    Keep this rule at the front of your mind when you set up your campaigns.

    Avoid Broad Searches
    When you set up your keywords for Google Adwords, the default setting is Broad Match.

    What this means is that Google will match your keywords against a search if your words are present in the search regardless of the order of the words, whether they appear together, are plurals, etc.

    As an example if you use the term used shoes as a broad match then the following searches in Google would match to your keywords

    used shoes
    used shoes shop
    used horse shoes
    shoes used in modern dance
    new and not used shoes

    As you can see this can give quite a few matches that may not be relevant to your website.

    You should avoid broad searches and target you keywords with phrased and exact matches.

    A phrased match is one where the keywords will only match if they are used in the exact sequence of your keyword. You enter a phrased keyword by putting quotes “” around your keyword.

    So for our example, if I used “used shoes” then

    used shoes
    used shoes shop

    would match but

    used horse shoes
    shoes used in modern dance
    new and not used shoes

    would not.

    An exact match is one where the keywords will match only if that exact phrase is entered and no other words are used for the search. You enter an exact keyword by putting a square bracket [] around your keyword.

    So for our example, if I used [used shoes] then

    used shoes

    would match but

    used shoes shop
    used horse shoes
    shoes used in modern dance
    new and not used shoes

    would not.


    Avoid using the Content network.

    You can set up your campaigns so that you ads appear on both Google’s search network and its content network.

    The content network consists of websites that allow Google ads to appear.

    I recommend turning off the content option when you set up your campaign because you ad may not always appear on websites that a very relevant to the ad you are running.

    Only advertise to locations that it makes sense to.

    When you set up your campaigns you can select which countries you want your adverts to appear to. So for example, if you sell a product in the USA that you would not ship outside then there is little point for your ad to appear to people in Europe or China for example.

    Pick the times you want your adverts to appear

    You can select what time of day you want your ads to appear. So if you are trying to advertise to UK buyers who are surfing during the evening, then those are the times you should be setting your ads to appear.

    Organise your ad groups and campaigns

    One campaign with one adgroup and one massive list of keywords is doomed. This is the one single mistake that many first time users of Google Adwords make.

    Before you start using Adwords, I strongly recommend you sit down with pen and paper to plan out your campaign and adgroup structure.

    What works best does tend to vary based on what you are trying to sell. However as a guide for each campaign you should aim for no more than four or five adgroups each with ten to twenty good keywords. This will give you a set of campaigns which are easy to maintain and the keywords in each adgroup can be targeted effectively.

    This is only a guideline though. I’ve actually had an adgroup with only one keyword and it performed wonderfully.


    Use Landing Pages

    So many people make the serious mistake of sending their visitors to their home page when they click on their ads.

    You really want to send then directly to the page that is relevant to the ad you are running.

    So for example, if you have an online clothes shop then for any adverts you are running for men’s gloves, you really want to send them directly to the page for men’s gloves.

    So, don’t use your home page unless it makes sense. Send your visitors to land on a page that is relevant to the advert they clicked on. If you don’t have a page that is relevant to the advert, then why are you running that advert!

    Use more that one Advert and TEST!

    Always, always have more than one advert running for an adgroup. This allows you to see which advert is getting the best clicks through rate. You can then change the lower performing adverts and try to beat your best one. You will soon find that you have some very effective adverts.

    However to test properly, you need to set the adverts to rotate evenly. This is set in the campaign settings. In the ad serving option under the advanced settings, make sure you select the radio button for Rotate: Show ads more evenly.


    I hope that helps.
     
    mikesed, Apr 5, 2008 IP
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