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I run an illegal operation, what should I do next?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by anime, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #21

    You can certainly minimize your problems but you will not "fade in history". With sites like http://archive.org/web/web.php data about your website will usually be available for someone who wants to find them. That being said, a company is much more likely to spend their efforts trying to stop a current infringer than go after a site that has since stopped.
     
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    anime Greenhorn

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    I will close my illegal website. it makes $10k per month.
     
    anime, Jun 16, 2013 IP
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    Jot Chahal Greenhorn

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    #23
    You should, before you pay them more than you make.
     
    Jot Chahal, Jun 17, 2013 IP
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    dedideals Member

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    #24
    Bring it down or move to servers off shore or where they do not care http://www.cyberbunker.com/web/index.php
     
    dedideals, Jun 17, 2013 IP
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    arnold2001 Active Member

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    #25
    1. Prepay for your hosting as far out as possible;
    2. Put all your money in a safe deposit box at the bank;
    3. Change your name;
    4. When they come knocking move to a country with no extradiction, maybe Ecuador.
     
    arnold2001, Aug 1, 2013 IP
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    vangel Active Member

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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #27
    It depends on your luck, if the copyright owners are not tracking you at the moment because you aren't that popular, you MAY be able to get away with it. But that is a big MAY. Unlike civil cases where there can be a limit to the number of years for prosecution, criminal acts do not expire.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #28
    In US law there are statutes of limitations for criminal prosecution. For example, many states have similar statutes to these:
    • murder charges: no time limit
    • serious felony charges: six years
    • misdemeanor charges: two years, and
    • petty misdemeanors and infractions: six months.
    There are things that can toll the statute of limitations, but many criminal acts do end up beyond prosecution because of the passage of time.
     
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    davetrebas Active Member

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    #29
    Illegal is a matter of location. There must be some countries where this activity is not illegal and maybe even protected. Just a matter of locating your hosting there. Maybe cloud hosting.

    The next problem would be protecting yourself from being identified and prosecuted depending on what country you are a citizen of.

    Do some sort of risk assessment. Getting "busted" for illegal activities is just part of the risks. The gains might be enough to justify the risks. Your past history might also be a factor.

    If you are currently running an illegal site and just now wondering what to do to protect yourself you might have things backwards. That planning should have been done first.

    You might also determine what are the real/actual penalties if you are "busted". That's all part of the risk assessment. How many people doing this sort of thing have been caught?

    It is just a business with the added factor of possibly being illegal.
     
    davetrebas, Aug 7, 2013 IP
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    scurvy Well-Known Member

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    #30
    If you don't get caught who cares??
     
    scurvy, Aug 8, 2013 IP
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #31
    So much for ethics and morality.
     
    Spoiltdiva, Aug 8, 2013 IP
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    rohit09 Well-Known Member

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    #32
    My inbox has space, if you need my advice only. Maybe I know few people can help you with that giant site of yours.
     
    rohit09, Aug 26, 2013 IP
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    Sphor Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Most illegal website operations are hosted offshore and the owners cover up their tracks well to avoid being prosecuted. If you've been careful, you should be fine.
     
    Sphor, Aug 26, 2013 IP
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #34
    You were not careful and are not fine, you were caught. (banned) Hopefully this does not happen to the OP.:D
     
    Spoiltdiva, Sep 1, 2013 IP
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    #35
    However much money you make... I believe the copyright people will fine you much more. Because the piracy business model makes money because people can buy materials from you cheaper right, eg a 10th of the cost. So for every thing you sell, you may get fined 10 times as much as your sale or profit if the copyright people find you. I am just roughly estimating here.
    I think this is a bad business to be in personally. Even if I could think of things that would prevent you from getting caught I probably wouldn't tell you, for ethical reasons too. As well as the fact that a copyright troll or agency might come after me for helping you... probably not likely but why would I take the chance.
     
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    fare Active Member

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    #36
    I would advice you to stop whatever you're doing, you might be lucky now. The law always catch up with those illegal operations when they get famous. Unless, you intend to play "hide and seek" by hosting offshore and taking extra precautions etc..
     
    fare, Sep 14, 2013 IP
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    hockeystick Well-Known Member

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    #37
    This is now my new favorite question of all time. OF ALL TIME!

    Here is the best course of action to protect yourself from legal liability and consequences: Find and hire a lawyer immediately.
     
    hockeystick, Sep 14, 2013 IP
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    zbode Tech Peon

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    TorrentFreak (torrentfreak.com) does a great job of providing the latest in "scene" news and describes the consequences of such illicit actions.
     
    zbode Tech, Oct 10, 2013 IP
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    sweetpea69 Active Member

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    #39
    first off, if it's yours, why are you hiding it? "Uhh yeah, it's uhhh... a friend of a friend's"?.? Secondly, the design of your site screams illegal. Thirdly, why are you using trademarked logos such as IMDB? Forthly, are those images public domain? You're screwing yourself every which way to sunday. If you're going to link to "knowingly" infringed material, then just do that (or don't at all). Don't make your shit look so dark.
     
    sweetpea69, Oct 11, 2013 IP
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    sweetpea69 Active Member

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    Oh yeah, and get rid of the donate button!! Dude, come on. Use a little common sense.
     
    sweetpea69, Oct 11, 2013 IP