I need your advice please :D

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by dan113, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. #1
    I am planning to launch my first ecommerce site. It will be a high investment to get up fast. I am planning on buying about 10 PR 9 backlinks and many other lower PR backlinks . Will also invest some money in promoting on other sites, reviews, articles and much more. The keyword is very very competitive Results 1 - 10 of about 366,000,000 . My questions are : is there any possibility to get in top 5 if i achieve 10 Pr9 and many other PR8+PR7 and so on , with high seo on all pages , and all kind of promotion ?
    BTW The site is bought for 10 years which i think is a + for google results.

    Let me know your opinions and tell me how could i get in the top 5 no matter the investment , i have very high budget.
    Thank you
     
    dan113, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  2. Giamatti

    Giamatti Well-Known Member

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    #2
    paying for al those links will get you sanboxed.
    you might want to try a slower approach of your marketing
     
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  3. anouar

    anouar Peon

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    #3
    Hi Guy,
    What about your Competitor? what Page rank they have (the first 5)?
     
    anouar, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  4. anouar

    anouar Peon

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    #4
    eeeeeh I forget to tell you that SEO IS A LONG TERM STRATEGY
    in other words: IS NOT A GET RICH QUICK.

    to answer your question:"is there any possibility to get in top 5 if i achieve 10 Pr9 and many other PR8+PR7 and so on , with high seo on all pages , and all kind of promotion ?"

    Yes, But don't Spam Search engine, otherwise you'll be banned.
    just be patient and you'll get what you want
     
    anouar, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  5. poseidon

    poseidon Banned

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    You may be better off focusing on ROI rather then on getting on top 5 in serps. You don't want the situation where you ran out of all your budget with no returns!
     
    poseidon, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  6. vincentc

    vincentc Guest

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    wow that is the craziest seo strategy I have ever heard (no offense)

    You cannot sling shot yourself to the top position under such a highly competitive keyword, I wouldnt worry to much about the banning thing, Google is not going to penalize you for a large marketing campaign just make sure those sights are relevant to your product or service and of course mix up the anchor text or it will seem unnatural and "spammy".

    You have to establish yourself, maybe use some of that cash to pick up an expired domain that has a track record (registered for 10+ years backlinks that are beginning to faid etc) that you can build from...if all else fails just start from the ground up and build up your own link "juice" to push your index page to the top for your highly competitive keyword, start with the low hanging fruit. Final note please, please, please be sure to make sure the big keyword your shooting for is a "buying" keyword you dont want to do all this work and find out noone is buying under it.

    Vincent Cameron
     
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  7. PHPGator

    PHPGator Banned

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    Yep, others have given you good advice about paying for all of these links. If you want to invest good money, perhaps look into prweb... it could probably help you get some good backlinks. From there though, I'd really focus on investing more into PPC. PPC is great for ecommerce because it is of the fields where you really can see a ROI.
     
    PHPGator, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  8. dalink

    dalink Peon

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    I'd suggest using Niche Marketing to target niches within the same market.

    You basically target smaller keywords or keyphrases to general traffic in the same market while you steadily climb search engine rankings for your primary keyword. If Google sees direct backlinks from PR7-PR9 sites as soon as you launch it might throw up some red flags.

    You can purchase a PR7-PR9 backlink every 2 weeks but don't do it all at once.

    For some more info on Niche Marketing you can view these two articles:

    What is Niche Marketing? - Explaining the basics of Niche Marketing.

    General Marketing vs Niche Marketing
    - Describing the basic differences between the two and why you should use one or the other.

    Competitive keywords are just that... Competitive! Good Luck! :)
     
    dalink, Dec 31, 2008 IP
  9. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    10 PR9 backlinks? good luck!
     
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    SEO is like a fine wine or a nice cheddar, it takes time to mature! What Im trying to say is that you'll probably get sandboxed or banned. Build up your links slowly and as naturally as possible. Also stay away from buying links as Google is very strict on this. Recent major updates have seen sites that either purchased or sold links penalised. If you have a big budget then concentrate on quality content or maybe partnering up with some big sites by offering some sort of sponsorship(s).

    Good luck with it all.
     
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    Yeah I think slower would be better
     
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  12. dan113

    dan113 Banned

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    #12
    thank you all for taking your time to help me... i will take serious every advice mentioned. I don't want to see results in 1 week... i will take it slowly and maybe in 1 year i will be able to achieve what i want.
    thanks
     
    dan113, Jan 1, 2009 IP
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    First if the site is new, then you will be in the sand box for the first 6 months.

    Then you will have the issue of adding the product information/content. Question: Do you know how to SEO the product detail pages? Can you get them indexed?

    Is the product you are using really SEO friendly? Or did the programmers just add some fields to an existing product?

    Before you spend your money on a dumb linking concept, get your site operational first. Get it indexed and start your planning for the Christmas rush next year (September 2009).

    Oh, is you product pricing competitive or the lowest? Are your going to carry inventory?

    We do these all the time. Normal SEO techniques won't work and black hat will get the site banned. The key to success will be to make sure that the "product detailed" pages are "uniquely On-Page SEOed" for each product.

    And how the category/subcategory name strings relate to the keywords the market is searching for (keyword research).

    If you have enought money to buy 10 pr 9 links, start looking for a SEO company that does sites like yours. Most do not.
     
    catanich, Jan 1, 2009 IP
  14. mohit115

    mohit115 Active Member

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    Focus on the content, don't buy links, let the search engines find you instead of you forcing them to. The truth with search engines is "Slow and steady wins the race".
     
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    OK NOW IT'S more logical,
    but if your goal is to rank for a high competitive keyword, you really have to work everyday + invest some money.

    my advice for you is try to dominate a small niche, in order that Search engine especially google consider your site as authority, after go to the next level (high competitive keywords).

    1 year is good for a long term seo strategy.
     
    anouar, Jan 1, 2009 IP
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    It could be a good idea to TEST your keyword candidates with an Adwords campain (do it now). Only invest in SEO for the keywords that convert well enough in reality.

    That can save you a lot of money...
     
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  17. dan113

    dan113 Banned

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    well actually thats why i am investing that much ... there are 20 million + searches each month for the top keyword... then there are lower searched keywords ... and long tailed keywords could get maximum 5k ... i think im focusing first on long tailed keywords, then on 2-3 words keywords and then investing to get the top keyword :D
    anyways thanks again for ur answers
     
    dan113, Jan 2, 2009 IP