I need help from someone who is making money with adwords "newbie"

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by cowsgonemadd3, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    Can someone help me out with a few questions related to making a profit with adwords?

    Like can you honestly make a profit by paying almost 2 bucks a click?
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    Is it okay to link to my landing page and get advice and see if you all think it will work?

    I just want to launch a working campaign and not lose a ton of money.

    If I were to say target how to lose belly fat do I need a landing page talking about belly fat or just weight loss in general like mine. I will just post it and hope the mods understand I am just asking for help and not advertising.
    http://www.howtoloseweightguide.info

    What do you think of my landing page?
     
    cowsgonemadd3, Jan 17, 2009 IP
  2. vesparich

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    It depends on what you're promoting. Just take note that those are Google's suggestions. You can get traffic for less with a good CTR and relevant landing page. Also, you can start high and than gradually lower your bid as your CTR improves.
     
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  3. Faclez

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    consider to have a 2% conversion rate, direct linking to a product, paying 1 dollar per click. 100 clicks will cost you 100 dollars, and you might get to sales, if your payout if above 50 dollars per sale then might make money. All depends on what you are selling, and what your cut is.

    generally I stay away from .50 + words. Hope this helps.
     
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  4. rocklobsta

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    I'd say get some low cost clicks first and test your conversion rate and then yu can decide how much you want to spend. You idea is to make a little money machine for yourself.

    Personally I wouldn't use negativity such as in these lines: "Many of these products are just junk and do not even work. Why would you want to use your hard earned money on useless junk? You wouldn't!!"

    Perhaps it helps, perhaps it doesn't. Once you work out your conversion rate you can then change the copy slightly and see if sales improve or decline.
     
    rocklobsta, Jan 18, 2009 IP
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    Personally, I would ignore the estimated 1st page bid - it is hopelessly inaccurate as a rule. I suggest you launch your campaign with a modest bid, 25c say, and let it run for a couple of days while Google works out your relevance and QS, etc. Then, once the numbers stabilize and you get an idea of the average positions you can start adjusting your bids to suit.
     
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  6. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    Just want to comment on your landing page, the header text (my eyes have always been sensitive to this combination) the red text on blue literally makes me not look at it, its blinding to me, even when i move my eyes to the standard text on a white bacground i still see that red and blue distracting and screwing with my eyes.
     
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  7. miconos

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    I would say that generally speaking it is better to start with lower price bids.
    such competetive phrase are for more experienced users
     
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    Few things yes change red on blue it is really hard to look at try including a picture of a person it adds credibility. You need to warm them up first don't hit them with words like buy now in your lower left link, your visitors will see that as spammy. This games takes time to learn look and see what others are doing. Good Luck and God Bless.
     
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    Maybe a free giveaway could give you a better long term ROI rather than just sending them to affiliate links....
     
    32paul52, Jan 18, 2009 IP
  10. cowsgonemadd3

    cowsgonemadd3 Well-Known Member

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    I will change the header.
    I am getting mixed info. People say give a call to action and to put "buy now"....So what is best?
     
    cowsgonemadd3, Jan 18, 2009 IP
  11. crystyignat

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    calls to action are what makes people buy so you need to think deeper than "buy now", yes that's a call to action, but try to add some benefits too, offeres, etc.
     
    crystyignat, Jan 20, 2009 IP
  12. T.J.

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    There are many different factors to consider. If your ad and landing page are optimized then you should not have to pay top pay bid (2.00) for "weight loss" Keywords. I never had and I can show you campaigns that have ad clicks in the same niche for .35 to .80 cents.

    In addition I've had campaigns that in the make money online field that have had the same results. The more relevant your ad is to your landing page the Higher your Quality score will be and the lower your CPC should be. As far as selling is concerned however, It does not matter if you are getting a Great CTR or CPC if you are not making sales from the key words that you are using.

    You have to test the market and see what will work. Your landing page looks better than it did before, however it may look like too much of a sales pitch to potential buyers. If that is the case then you will have to try a new related keywords or try a new landing page. Adwords is not easy for beginners. One of the first rules of investing is not to invest with money you can't afford to lose. This means you have to have money to test the market for the keywords that sell Maybe (100 to 200 clicks). No one will give you those keywords. You will have to find them your self. If you don't have money, then you should consider article marketing as an alternative method of advertising/promoting.

    In addition as far as selling is concerned here is a free guide to affiliate marketing that's helped me out a lot. It's much to due with the concept of Pre-selling more than selling but I definitely feel that it can help you overall. Here's the link:
    http://aff-masters.sitesell.com/guhewitt.html
     
    T.J., Jan 20, 2009 IP
  13. PPCJohn

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    #13
    Those are just estimates, and in many cases are no where near correct.

    i would focus on optimizing your landing page as best you can and aim towards conversions. There are a number of things i see right off the bat, but if you look around you can see what other people are doing and use that strategy.

    at the same time, if you structure your campaign right, use distinctive ad copy, etc. you can get a 5 to 10% conversion rate in your campaign
     
    PPCJohn, Jan 21, 2009 IP
  14. cowsgonemadd3

    cowsgonemadd3 Well-Known Member

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    start with lower bids first, it is experimental, and you may strike a deal which is lower than your expectations. Your product landing page should make conversion to offset the expenses. thats it, once done, you have no limits to earn.
     
    aspardeshi, Jan 22, 2009 IP
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    You can easily make the template that you are looking for by yourself.
    That is just very easy basic html using tables with borders.
    Find a basic html tutorial on tables and you can make yours look a whole lot better.
    But before you want a template like that do you know if it converts well?
    Either way it would be good to test different formats.
    It's hard to make money with adwords - you can do it but it is hard.
    There are plenty of free ebooks that can give you a good start.
    (but most ebooks are not good) It just takes time, education, and experience.
     
    sgooey, Jan 23, 2009 IP
  17. cowsgonemadd3

    cowsgonemadd3 Well-Known Member

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    Does it not look better than mine maybe?
     
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  18. SmartMoney

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    Another tip is to identify the keywords that have the best chance of converting to sales. For example take the name of the top weight loss product and bid directly on that name or that name +"review".

    People searching for product names are farther along in the buying cycle.

    You can also test your campaigns for less cost on the content network, and you don't have the quality score issues to deal with.
     
    SmartMoney, Jan 23, 2009 IP
  19. cowsgonemadd3

    cowsgonemadd3 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the content network did not convert as well?
    Buying(bidding) into name brand things is fine and all but what if I am selling a simple ebook about weight loss on clickbank?
     
    cowsgonemadd3, Jan 23, 2009 IP
  20. SmartMoney

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    A common notion perpetuated by people who are too lazy to test it ;)

    Find out if there are searches for that ebook's name by doing some keyword research, if not, then perhaps find a product where there are searches. I can tell you for sure that some of the top weight loss products on CB have lots of brand name searches.
     
    SmartMoney, Jan 24, 2009 IP