Hey Can this be considered as link selling ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ads-opportunity...ewItemQQimsxZ20080817?IMSfp=TL080817107r36379
Penalties could take a long time to clear my opinion don't send them anything just correct what you think you were doing "wrong"
I'm experimenting with what the new take is on too much too fast and I can tell you that it's the link posting stuff that got you in "trouble." That doesn't mean that you're in real trouble, just a timeout. I'm in a timeout now for the homepage although I still have some top 10 rankings for some of my main keywords, it's just not the home page link anymore. By the way we're talking PR0 pages here and my home page has been a PR1 for a long time and I never cared about PR and still don't. Most people care too much about this and it seems that especially these days it means practically nothing. This isn't to say that links don't matter - they do - but by way of a different algorithm than people think PR operates on, and it seems to be a combination more of everything including the links which actually makes more sense. I'm wondering if Google isn't on a vendetta for directory submissions these days but one thing's for sure they are penalizing folks for overdoing this and posting a flurry of links period. I've gotten in "trouble" and backed off and come out better than before so this isn't a real big deal at all unless your site is de-listed which is the only reason you want to submit for re-consideration. You also want to clean up things first before you do. King Cobra Poker
how do you think would Google see you paying a link to get it? Is there a known software or some program that Google uses to find out if your links are paid? my answer is, damn "no". there is no way that Google can see if you are buying links at all unless they were from tx* link* ad* which happened in the biggest PR slap by Google last year. just a note of reminder....do not ever buy links in bulk....try to space up your buys because what Google can detect is if you are doing bulk buying which is easy to see with the sudden upsurge of your link number. i bet you guys that Google has no way of seeing if a link is bought....but big "G" sees link manipulation through link buying when large amounts of inbound links in a day or a week pushes through in their index of your site...they must have put some limits there somewhere and we know that because we've been doing link building for 4 YEARS NOW
Oh, thats rather easy to find out. When people sell links, they have to advertise the fact and pretty much also have to name the sites in question, after all, nobody would buy PR0. After a site has been established as link seller, it can safely be assumed, that everyone it links to is a link buyer. There are of course some other qualifiers. For example, cheating to get the initial PR by having the domain point to some valid content (of somebody else) for a few months, let it collect PR there and once it has gained it, point it to the link selling directory. Sell links till the next PR update dumps you down to a solid 0, then dump the domain and start over. All in all, it's just a matter of triggering the "bad neighborhood" flag with Google for your website.
You are right about people and their sites selling links but what we are talking about here are those who bought it... and there is no room for assumptions in this arena, only precision and proof... Here's some proof of link sellers, where txtlinkads used to be on top of that result... now they're totally gone. That is the proof about link sellers that you are talking about....but what about those who buy them which is the issue here? What I am trying to tell guys here is that it is not the link buying per se that gets any site penalized....What Google detects here is the speed of incoming links by bulk. which we have seen can really hurt sites based on our experience as link builders for 4 years....the same reason why we made a counter move to make our service safe for our clients... cheers
Well, first of all, I would ask why certain proof would be a requirement. We are talking about a private corporation here, not a court of law. That is simply the reverse: If someone offers links for sale, then you can assume with high accuracy, that everyone he links to likely bought their link. Thats this "bad neighborhood" thing, mentioned in the webmaster quality guidelines. Of course, you can argue now, that those links were placed without agreement from the linked party, but I'd say, that if the majority of incoming links originates from link selling sites and were put up in a short time, then there is a pattern. Anyhow, it does not really matter much. If the pagerank of any site is based on link buying, de-indexing the selling sites will automatically hit the buying party hard.
If this is true,,,then how can you explain this. payperpost.com/ - PR 6 smorty.com/ - PR 5 blogsvertise.com/ - PR 5 blogtoprofit.com/ - PR 4 payu2blog.com/ - PR 4 bloggingads.com/ PR 4 don't we all know the these sites are in to paid link posting or paid blogging or paid posting or get paid to blog. what do you buy here if you are an advertiser? what do you sell here if you are an affiliate? or a publisher? Don't tell me Google doesn't know what's happening inside the walls of these sites. if this doesn't prove or make us see something here, then I don't know what else and we all know that there are more like the examples I just gave here. Look at them waving their HIGH PR out on us...am i missing something here? Please anyone? Anyone here can also go at freelancer and see people buying links there, even up to 50 or sometimes 100 PR 4 or PR 5 links and did you know where they ended? well, after the Google update, they all went high PR with their sites sky high up to PR 5 and that is another concrete example...Just want to make all thing clear here for everyone, I don't really mean giving any false assumptions. This is a responsibility here and not just some information. i just want to let out what I know and have already experienced but it does not necessarily mean definite not absolute right. i am giving people here their own choice and conviction by giving my examples and keeping them concrete and virtual and existing, not just some assumptions with high accuracy. CHEERS TO ALL ESPECIALLY TO YOU MY FELLOW WEBMASTER "blackonyx" AND MAY THE TRUTH SET US FREE.
It seems, we have a different opinion on what paid links are and of which kind Google is not fond of. The services you named essentially are in the review selling business. Buying a review is something different, then buying unrelated links from link farms, right? The later appearing to be what the OP did.
This is what the posted said................"I just purchased blog posting and directory services from the guys around here..." review selling? come on, we all know it's not the review that is sold there, it's the links in the review...the same reason why most who want to take a review service would post there "ONLY PR 5 BLOGS ARE ALLOWED TO BID". I've done hundreds of them actually and I know it. Who would be a fo** to buy unrelated high PR links in a link farm these days? If only you have seen how link buying requests look like in freelancing sites. (ex. I need 20 PR 5 relevant links: budget:$**) Nobody buys from link farms because everybody already knows about it and i bet that includes you. AGAIN .... CHEERS