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Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by RectangleMan, Jul 30, 2005.

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    What if a person that doesn't like you or your site decides to get your adsense code then create a site and use it...then spam the hell out of it.

    Google would most likely BAN you and not even tell you why. This just scared the hell out of me thinking about it. Maybe they should offer a secure channels only feature where unless the click originates from one of your channel URLs the click won't count. This would easily prevent that.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?
    SEMrush
     
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    That IMO is the reason a lot of members don't have their sites in their sigs.
     
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    Hopefully Google checks the whois info before pressing the ban button!!!!!
     
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    And what if the whois info is on a proxy? I would think google would just ban. Since they don't tell you why normally you would never know it was a malicious person.

    Should I try this on your adsense code as a test?
    pub-98674319xxxx5964 (edited so your code isn't displayed)

    Makes you think don't it but I was not serious about testing it on you.

    I think a malicious person could that wants competition to suffer could implement this with ease. For all we know it's already happened. There are lots of people who get banned and say they don't know why.


    Sitetutor- I would think those on a forum are not as likely as say...a competing site. If you have a site about oranges and so does someone else...you could target them and kill their income...hence your site would make more money as they may give up on the site.
     
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    I don't think we should show someone else's adsense code in here like that. Of course it would not be hard to target someone and get them at least temporarily banned. Sure you can contact Google and get reinstated, but it involves a major waste of time. A lot of members here have adsense as their main source of income, which is kinda scarry.
     
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    I edited my post with his code..but you shouldn't quote something if you don't think it should be displayed.
     
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    The best prevention would be to have not even mentioned it.. its places like this that many get those kind of ideas. Im glad adsense is currently 3% or something for me :)
     
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    I don't give myself that much credit for being original. If I can think of it than so can someone else. What amazes me is has google considered this?
     
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    Im am sure they have, they have probably seen it many times too. They must be aware of how to deal with it and Im sure they do. If my Billion dollar business was on the line over copying someones ID and clicking it etc. Id have done something.

    Also, Im sure they would have considered it when deciding how to implement Adsense originally.
     
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    lol you're right, didn't think about that :)
     
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    That is about as bad as what I was thinking the other day, what would stop someone setting up a porn or gambling site (both violate adsense TOS), on say tripod, geocities or someother even non usa free sites, using a fake name, addresses etc, all easily done.... then just searching the net, finding someones adsense code, copying and pasting the code onto the porn or gambling site, then reporting the adsense user etc to google.

    The quick way google seems to ban, and making it up to the adsense user to do the legal work, is truly scary........
     
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    There are many ways people can get to you if they hate you enough. We got majorly hacked last week. No idea why. Adsense seems easier though, I know. But you can get in touch with Google and be reinstated. it is not necessarily an easy process, but whenever it happens, it will raise Google's awareness of potential wrong doings and how to prevent/fix them better.
     
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    Exactly...even if we do get reinstated after a few days...someone could lose a lot of money. Also it would be a scar on the account making any other infraction a bigger problem.

    I think my idea would fix these problems. You can just set in your account channel only. It would even be good for testing. You could click your own ads on sites where you have not actived the channel yet. So if you have your account set in "secure channel mode" then only clicks coming from a channel you have enabled will count.

    I think my idea is good anyone see a problem with it? I would think that goog could do this rather easily. They already have the channels system setup and know if a click is from a channel.
     
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    You make it sound like getting reinstated is an easy matter when in fact it is not. They disabled "joeychgo" for no reason, and he had to jump through flaming hoops to get his account back.

    AmCy
     
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    Your idea is a good one, IMO, and I think you should send it to G.

    AmCy
     
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    but I am saying, there are things that can be done, especially when you are a member here getting help from others and being able to raise awareness as well. What sucks is for all those out there who don't know what to do when it happens.
     
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    I plan on giving the idea to google but I want to hear criticism or support about the idea.

    I will then try to find the proper people to PUSH this idea to. Maybe I can start a petition. Is anyone against this idea? To me this would show that google is doing something to not only protect us from fraud clicks but the adwords people too.
     
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    I never had to give any domain when I made a channel. Would the suggestion be the same as simply having a place to list all your domains, and if your ads show up on another domain, they don't work? It can't get any easior than that!!
     
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    I think it's a sensible idea. What will matter is how practical it is for Google to implement it. There could be a better way that they decide to go with but I agree that they should do something and your idea is at the very least a great starting point.
     
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