I increase my bid but :mad:

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by Nokia999, Oct 29, 2005.

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    I don't know what is happening.I increase my bid for particular keyword but it shows new data as less clicks/day and increase in avg position.
    What's the problem it should show me increase number of clicks/day and lower avg postion.
     
    Nokia999, Oct 29, 2005 IP
  2. Nokia999

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    Sometime Adword estimator loose its nerves :D.It's estimations are not reliable one.
     
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    My guess would be the problem is your CTR. A higher bid does not automatically translate into more clicks and a higher position.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Oct 31, 2005 IP
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    If CTR is problem then it should be at the end of day not at the setting time of campaign.I increase bid for particular keyword it shows lower position and less number of clicks.It is totally disgusting :mad:
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #5

    Is this the estimator or your actual stats?
     
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    It is Google Estimator.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    That thing is garbage...IGNORE IT!
     
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    Yes i am ignoring it.
    But how can i set my optimum campaign without right estimates of clicks/day and avg position ?
     
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    Run your campaign and track the results - tweak as needed. Estimates are nice but don't base your plans on them. The most valauable data you'll ever get is the actual live data from your account.
     
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    Begin with a lower bid per click amount and let it run. How long for is up to you. It could be a few hours, 24 hours, a few days or a week, to get an idea of the type of traffic you might expect. You then adjust your bids accordingly.
     
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    I am running adwords from last couple of months.But i haven't reached on any decision.Why Google has made its Estimator so dull.
    For one keyword it say 57 clicks/day when i set price of $.15
    But i received total 13 clicks in last 26 days.It is a big gap in google's estimates and actual data.
    What Google estimated is 1482 click in 26 days what i received is 13 so difference is more than 99% negative :mad:
     
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    Google's estimates are just that, estimates. They can't take your ad copy into consideration which is a huge driver behind whether or not you receive clicks.
     
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    Can anyone post here some good examples of good ad copies.:rolleyes:
     
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    Depends on your market and what you're trying to accomplish.
     
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    I'm using Google Adwords too and I'm having the same problem as Nokia999.

    How about using the 'Budget Optimizer'? Is that any good? Has anybody tried using it?
     
    dinarpw, Nov 2, 2005 IP
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    I have used it is vague as Google Estimator.I think we are newbie and not have right trick of playing with Adwords.If Adword estimator would be so sick then on next day it will be out of game.
     
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    What would you call "vague" about the Budget Optimizer?

    From here:
     
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    Sorry, but I personally think the budget optimizer is not so good. Unless of course, someone was gaming the top bid spots to keep them clear ... hmmm, I hadn't thought of that till now. Perhaps I'm being hasty ...
     
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    I don't ever use it...I like being in control. Plus most of my campaigns are over the 10,000 keyword limit. I always have a target spend, but I also have a target # of visitors that spend should generate. Using the budget optimizer will ensure I hit my spend, but not my traffic targets...which are more important.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Nov 4, 2005 IP