i have a hatered for islam

Budweiser (its American company version) has always been a monstrosity of adulteration - cheap rice taking the place of much of the fine barley used in authentic pilsner. Shame, and ridiculous, since Budweiser still buys up much of the world's finest malt - then tosses it in with up to 40% of this crap adjunct (rice), because it's cheaper. It uses both two-row and 6-row malt, since it needs the diastatic power of the six-row ("diastatic power" is a measure of the ability to saccharify the starch - the ability or "power" to convert the starch of other grains beside the intrinsic barley to fermentable sugars). In other words, it's crap, though crap with a mountain of quality control in its service, to ensure you get the same crap, each and every batch, each and every year.

It has until very recently been the same with Michelob. Made, originally, as an all-malt lager, like Budweiser, in 1961 Michelob began to be made with crap rice adjunct. Now, in a ridiculous attempt to try and squeeze something off the craft beer segment, A-B converted Michelob to all-malt recipes, began touting it's "craft" nature in 2007.

Though it's public line - it uses rice for its "clean" flavor - is the company's propaganda, in truth, it's just a cheap way to make "beer." Because of the aforementioned diastatic power of the six-row used, the mash obtained makes for a highly-fermentable wort - this "clean beer" is about 5.2% a.b.v. So, it gets you tanked rather handily.

If someone wants water that will get them drunk, it serves its purpose - but be not deceived. Budweiser, and its variants, are marvels of engineered swill.

 

isamik or islamic?

 

Perhaps InBev will take the quality up a notch. Bud still isn't a bad beer to drink with Pizza or canned. Though I prefer to drink lager, helles or ale not too heavy on the hops.

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/06/13/swill-or-swell-does-the-world-really-want-to-drink-budweiser/

 

Either or or both?

 

I've been out of the brewing loop for some time - worked for a regional in Chicago just before Interbrew got its hands involved, but even then, Interbrew was busy gobbling everyone up. I guess I prefer small, local concerns.

[Note: this is not directed to Bogart, in case anyone's confused]: In other news, now, buddy, hard as it seems to be - please try to find other ways to entertain yourself...long, long ago, time to move on....isn't it? Aren't you the "long-term member" not yet in his 4th decade, always referring to others as "kid," talking about others "not old enough to remember the '80's recession?" What were you, 13, at the time? Based on your behavior online, are you really no older now, despite getting close to 40?

As I've said before, I'm not that important, man - but damn - you sure seem to need me in your life, for reasons unknown to me. Sad.

 

Perhaps the beer was free but it would be against the Koran to sell it.

 

Just an FYI, the OP "Sammie" says "hi" to Will Spencer!!!

Now back to the beer discussion.

 

Bit harsh lads.

 

I've always preferred MGD to Budweiser, but Bud Ice is a darned tasty beer.

Michelob always tasted nasty to me. Maybe I'll give it a try now that they have "reformulated."

Of course, tastes vary over time. For a couple of years, I drank almost nothing but Grolsch.

And of course, a nice wheat beer seldom disappoints.

Anyone here enjoy the dark wheat beers?

I think we've proven indisputably that the "rules" here at DP don't apply to everyone equally.

It's pathetic that the mods post rules that they don't enforce and that they enforce rules that they don't post. This really is the #1 reason why DP became such a cesspool.

Amen brother!

I think that "No consensual crimes in a free society" sums up my stance pretty nicely.

The longer version is in the Liberty Platform.

 

I'm quite boring when it comes to alcohol. Usually on a night out we'll stop out around the student bars and clubs, so I don't really have a chance to try "proper" beer - mostly cocktails, Magners/Bulmers/Gaymers (my favourite cider ) and maybe a Strongbow or two.

I agree Will mate. Tell me, you've been a member for a while longer than I: am I right in thinking that DP has gone down-hill drastically over the last year or so? When I used to post a lot back in 2005-2006 I remember the buying and selling area was booming and I don't recall many Indians at all. I came back not long ago (a few months ago) and things seem to be considerably different.

I remember arguing with you, Mia and Bogart though Sorry if I was ever a pain in the arse; it's nice to be on the same "side" now though. It's interesting how political opinion can change a lot over a short period of time. I remember being a raving Socialist... bad times; reminds me of:

Although I went through this change a lot earlier than is probably usual. I suppose I have "no heart"

 

How did this turn into a beer discussion?
Samantha, come back to DP

 

I prefer Sunset Wheat (Leninkugels)in that category.
Tried some "Cracked Wheat" from the makers of Spotted Cow. Tasted like horse piss.

The Sunset tastes a bit like blueberries. Good brew. Seasonal of course, but wonderful any time of year.

I'll drink a Bud or Bud Light long before I drink Miller or any variety. Miller gives me headache and is skunky. The darker bottles that Bud comes in takes care of the skunk factor by limiting the light that hits the beer. And the Rice give the beer a lighter taste that seems to stave off the headache brought on by traditional Pilsners.

My usual is always Corona, or Tecate when I can find it.

 

Interestingly enough, I worked with the hop chemist involved in the development of the reduced humulone and iso-humulone hop extract for Miller. What this means is that these hops are light-stable, and are not affected by the light penetration in the clear bottle.

Briefly, alpha acids in hops (humulone, co-humulone, ad-humulone) are converted by boiling into their isomerized (restructured) analogues. Normal isomerized humulone, "isohumulone," reacts in the presence of light and riboflavin (derived in mash wort) to form MBT - "3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol," chemically very similiar to our skunk friends' noxious spray.

http://www.evansale.com/skunked_beer.html

Corona, on the other hand, coming in clear glass, without the "light-protected" isohumulone, is heavily skunked (though I haven't had a corona in a couple of decades, so it's possible they, too, have moved to reduced isohumulone). Originally, one big reason why the company branded itself always accompanied with a lime - it masks the skunk "bouquet."

From a sensory-evaluation perspective, interesting what we think about a product (beer, wine) going in influences what we perceive on tasting. Tasting beers in a neutral room, poured blind in opaque glasses, is always an interesting experience. It's also a good afternoon with pals.

Isn't that a pastry served every May 1? (Or April 22, in certain quarters of the Russian Federation)?

Another beer tidbit: headaches from beer don't really come from the components in beer - rice, as in Budweiser, corn, as in the other Big brewers (incl. Corona), they all work to increase fermentable sugars cheaply and don't cause headaches; headaches are typically caused by fermenting a given beer too hot.

This increases the carbon load in the alcohol produced - i.e., "fusel alcohols" - that can often cause headaches. Some Belgian strong beers, for instance, can do this, due to the combination of high gravity/high alcohol, and the high fermentation temps involved in some strains of Belgian brewing yeasts and fermentation profiles.

 

Corona is also my usual beer of choice also, though I prefer Pacifico to Tecate. And, I should mention, never with a lime.

At the moment though, I'm still thirsting for a Hefeweizen.

 

I'm a fan of the Mexican "Vienna" style lagers, e.g., Dos XX amber, Negra Modelo, Noche Buena (when it's been available), etc. Many Viennese brewers settled South of the Border at the birth of lager brewing (later 19th century), and the malt, slight-residual-sweetness edge of the style works well with spicy food, for me.

With you on hefeweizens - esp. dunkelweizens.

 

ROFL. No idea how this became the beer thread... but Will is right about Corona, and in keeping with the standard protocol for P&R threads, I think anyone that disagrees is evil and must be stopped.

 

Mmm, beer . . .

I like me a nice cold Bohemia

To bring this full circle back to Politics and Religion....

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

- Benjamin Franklin

 

Fact is if you look at Islam you can see it is just like every other faith except it growth is due
to terror against anyone who will not convert.Islam only began around 600 AD but sadly most in Islam do not even know this historical fact. Still in the long run it's again just a faith that says if you are good enought God will get you in heaven...

Bibical Christian belief is the only one faith where God became man and took on the works for us.
God who became a man named Jesus . Born to a virgin Jesus was sinless (no mary she was a sinner like us all)
Since we all have sinned and guilty of punishment in Hell ,Jesus became our punishment and death then arose from the dead. More then 500 people seen him after this ...


Fact is history show the evidence of Who Jesus was this evidence comes for non christain sources ..
Roman writers who were in fact anti christian faith but the reported the history as honest men.

Only salvation is gain from one to repent from sin and ask Jesus to save you ...

Pride makes a person think that can do works to gain heaven....

 

I'll raise your Ben Franklin and give you....

hahahahah - two I didn't know:

As to "light beer" (and with respect, Rob, Will, even you, good old Mia, I consider Corona "light" beer), well, not really a fan of his beer, but just came across this from Kirby Nelson, of Capital Brewery, WI:

As to how this came to be a beer thread, I dunno. And can I have another pint a' bitter, please?

 

Yeh?? Weird. The most populous Muslim country, Indonesia was never reached by any Muslim army. Strange, that.