i have a hatered for islam

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by samantha pia, Oct 13, 2006.

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  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #341
    Greater is he that lives inside of us than the one outside - from the scriptures.

    Grace is sufficient, we can't be saved because of our own deeds and lives, we're just too weak and even don't know what will happen tomorrow.

    About the blood issue: Yes, there is lots to find about it in Hinduism.

    In fact, I find some of your arguments very interesting, it reminds me on Bible discussion with the Seventh Day Adventists I had every Sabbath before the service.
    I guess you need some more intelectual discussion for your spiritual feedings.
    Try them, you will find great people there and very open minded, sometimes a bit critical, but the best I know so far.

    Everything can be discussed there, the scriptures is viewed from every possible angle.
     
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    zcy3270 Active Member

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    #342
    very brilliant debate,so i can improve my english here:) haha
     
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  3. hardjoko

    hardjoko Active Member

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    #343
    Aren't all males like that? Except the killing part :D

    In no country I know females are truly free actually. If females are free they choose alpha (smartest, richest, tallest, most handsome males) males and the rest go extinct. This don't go well for voters.

    So different cultures have different ways to restrict females, freedom:

    US: Anti prostitution. Anti polygamy. Child support is proportional to a man's wealth.
    Afganistan: Females can't even work (and hence must get married to some males).
    Europe: The males in europe is charming enough they let their women free.

    The more attractive the males in a country (=rich) the more that country embrace freedom. So kudo for europe. It's often the females that opposes freedom there though.

    That being said freedom also means competition and ugly women are not competitive. So they too, called the feminist, hate females freedom. They don't like pretty females displaying superior traits in public so they prohibit porn. They don't want to compete against females from cheaper country so they prohibit foreign sexual workers.

    SO basically all morality comes from humans' interest. Freedom means competition and hence many humans do not want freedom. That means punishing those who use their freedom (with death sometimes) for some purpose that differ from the oppressors best interests.

    To gain support they often justify their restriction as if it's actually benefiting everyone. Often they argue that they restrict our freedom for our own good against our own choice. That kind of bullshit require extraordinary explanation that defy verification. Hence, religion. All religions. Not just Muslim.

    I mean c'mon. Have you ever heard any fundamentalist christian or Jews that stone people for working on Sabbath or for uttering false prophecy or becoming a false prophet? Any christian fundamentalists demand death penalty for televangelist that openly commit fraud? It's in the bible but nobody care. Nothing in the bible prohibits sex outside marriage in general or restrict the number of females a male can have. But that's what all fundamentalists in all religions bitch about. Simple. They're not getting any. THat's why they become fundamentalists in the first place.

    The same way the whole thing is just political game with religions as justification.

    Women, within formal marriage, are like natural resources that get divided proportional to political power. In democratic countries like Turki, Indonesia, Europe, US, the norm is monogamy. If you want to share a woman or be shared by many you just have to get out of norm (free sex, outsidie marriage, concubinage, etc.)

    In arab countries, that are monarchy, (and most countries where bible, quran, etc. is written), the norms are polygamy. The number of females a male can officially have is proportional to the males' political power. In ancient China, an emperor could have like 10000 chicks.

    Of course that means the rest don't get any and politicians there need to appease those who are not getting any and desperate enough to commit rape, suicide bombing, or whatever.
     
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    #344
    samantha you have a lot of anger in you have you ever thought of getting professional help?
     
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    leet Notable Member

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    #345
    You guys realize that this thread is 3 years old right?
     
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    #346
    She changed her mind I hope :)
     
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    hardjoko Active Member

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    #347
    Well, I hate thieves. ;)

    Question, someone rape a woman. Whose fault is it? The woman or the rapist?

    Answer: Which one gets you in the office?

    If you want females voter, then yea it's the rapist fault. Pretty women don't want to get rape and punishing rapists will indeed work. If you want supports from suicide bombers, then it's the woman's fault. If you don't like kids being happy then blame video games.
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #348
    I like bacon. :D
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 27, 2009 IP
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    #349
    Islam bans both bacon and alcohol. However, muslims freely drink alcohol but bacon is haram?
     
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    #350
    I like alcohol too. :)
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #351
    I like them both... Especially that Bacon Explosion:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #352
    Mmmm.... mmm... You know what sounds great right now? A nice big ham sandwich with plenty of mustard and a perfectly chilled Corona to wash it down. Mmmmm... mmm... good. :)
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #353
    I just had a Carne Sandwich at my buddys pub during a business luncheon today.

    GRILLED CARNE SANDWICH
    Fresh cut smoked ham, corned beef, our own roast beef,
    and provolone served on grilled multi-grain wheat. Accompanied by lettuce and tomatoes
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #354
    Man... I bet that would go great with an ice cold Corona. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 27, 2009 IP
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    #355
    I like weed.









    haha.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #356
    Nothing goes better with an Ice Cold Corona, than well.. another Ice Cold Corona!:D
     
    Mia, Apr 28, 2009 IP
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    #357
    Amen! Now that's a religion I can agree with. ;)
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #358
    I like pigs.:)
    [​IMG]
     
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    #359
    What nonsense are you talking about? Drinking alcohol and eating bacon is forbidden in Islam.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #360
    Really? That sucks. Both are really tasty.
     
    Mia, Apr 28, 2009 IP
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