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I have 18,000 pages indexed--no wait-- 196-- no, now it's 8,300, now 130

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by artsmart, Feb 8, 2006.

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    I have a PHP shopping cart website that I run from home:
    www.artsmart-online.com My sitemap, created in December, has roughly
    115,000 items. We were verified, crawled and watched the pages climb,
    and then drop. Climb again, and drop. We were told to give it time.
    Other than a few product additions and deletions, and new sitemaps
    created about bi-weekly, no major change has occured. Saturday I had
    10,300 pages indexed. Yesterday I had 193. Today I'm at 18,000.


    I would normally believe this is something strange on our site, however
    I've been watching this same learning curve for my 9-5 job's website,
    www.colamco.com, which is different in every other way. It's ASP.net
    shopping cart with about 1/2 the number of products. We have a web
    design team that works on this site full-time, and we have new products
    and a new sitemap created and submitted daily. This site had 12,800
    products indexed when I left Friday afternoon. Today they're discussing
    why, for the 4th time in a month, they've dropped to 113 indexed pages
    with again-- no major changes to the site.


    I welcome any and all input. Of note is that both sites, even after
    being onboard steady with sitemaps for more than a month, have never
    had the entire site indexed.
     
    artsmart, Feb 8, 2006 IP
  2. arnek

    arnek Active Member

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    OKay, I wanted to say, it gradually grows, but I think after two months it must have started to stabalize...?
     
    arnek, Feb 9, 2006 IP
  3. irka

    irka Well-Known Member

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    thats a good question. I dont have the answer but it happened to me also on a book website www .parkstone-international.com. And if somebody can answer that it would be very grateful for me and artsmart also.
     
    irka, Feb 10, 2006 IP
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    Books of the Bible Peon

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    artsmart, you are not the only one in this boat. I'm not sure if this is good news are bad new but try this google data center 64.233.167.99 for site:www.artsmart-online.com, you have 41,300 pages indexed. On 66.249.93.104 you have 1,760 pages indexed. I have the same problem for http://www.booksofthebible.com. I have either 225 pages or 64,800 pages indexed depending on the data center. My site only has 5000+ pages. I'm hoping that info from the data centers with the larger pages indexed will migrate to others. Who knows?
     
    Books of the Bible, Mar 2, 2006 IP
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    You are not the only one. I too have experienced similar thing for the past week or so... just so strange, everyday it shows different results as far as my index pages. It started right after the PR update.
     
    alhoop, Mar 2, 2006 IP
  6. Advenlo

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    Huge fluctuations in pages and rankings too. I assume it's Big Daddy it'll calm down in a month or 2
     
    Advenlo, Mar 2, 2006 IP
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    Anyone else experiencing this?

    Yesterday I had 64,700 pages indexed by google, than it would switch to 231 pages then back. Today it is 231 pages and my traffic is way down. Been this way for at least a least a month.

    What is google doing? I added a sitemap to google a month ago but it hasn't helped (yet?). Google has been visiting my site. I used to have all my pages indexed, it is not a new site.
     
    Books of the Bible, Mar 6, 2006 IP
  8. alhoop

    alhoop Peon

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    I have the exact same problem. My index pages just keep going up and down like a yoyo. It is has effected my traffic big time :mad:
     
    alhoop, Mar 7, 2006 IP
  9. Books of the Bible

    Books of the Bible Peon

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    I don't understand what google is doing but it's not good for me.

    Try this tool to check google data centers on your site: http://www.123seotools.com/google/datacenters/saturation/

    It appears there are two groups of dc's and the ones that have my pages indexed are not the ones being accessed. I also have a problem with supplementals, why did google put "%09" in front of www.????
     
    Books of the Bible, Mar 8, 2006 IP
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    I have bit similar problems with my site and it depends of the datacenter that is used by the time. Sometimes it can hit your business really hard, like it does to me. When it's in the worse, the whole index that Google has about my site, is more than year old and majority of pages does not include the page descrition, only the address. And on those days there is no business at all. After I started to use Google Sitemaps, I have seen less those bad days, but they still do exist.
     
    Jude Vihervaara, Mar 11, 2006 IP
  11. LaCabra

    LaCabra Goats R Us

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    Hey guys,

    Make sure that ...

    1. you do not have session ids as part of your URLs
    2. your URLs are short
    3. your pages contain more content than HTML code
    4. your pages contain unique content.

    From my experience, I have over 136,000 pages indexed for one site, any of the above can cause your pages not to get indexed, get dropped from the index, or go into supplemental (title of page but no description) in the SERPs.

    Hope this helps!
    Frank
     
    LaCabra, Mar 11, 2006 IP
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    I reckon it is the Big Daddy push, as Advenlo has pointed out.

    Not sure how long it will take them, but google claim they have nearly solved the issues.
     
    Gaffer Sports, Mar 14, 2006 IP
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    Sarangan Well-Known Member

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    Make sure all your pages have unique contents and different meta tag titles for the all links/pages.. Different meta tag titles are very important before you submit a sitemap to google.
     
    Sarangan, Mar 18, 2006 IP
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    Yeap, happily see some 72,000 pages, but the next moment I am back to 243+/- ... :eek:
    Please, please let this be over soon.
     
    chelsea, Mar 18, 2006 IP
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    Our page has been fluctuating too, but mainly for good. I hope that continues.
     
    forumbooster, Mar 18, 2006 IP
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    Number of indexed pages at google is like a wave. At update times it increases and decreases. Noone knows what will happen during this operation. So only thing that you can do is "wait".
     
    BWDOW, Mar 18, 2006 IP
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    we do have same issue. we were 45K on last week of Feb. its now 300+.
    we see that its 30K+ in some of the DCs, &its 30K in some of ths DCS.
     
    dealsway, Mar 19, 2006 IP
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    dotcompals Prominent Member

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    One of my sites which i started 10 days ago is showing this kind of fluctuations. Google found it in just 7 days nut just 1 page. After 10-12 hours the number of pages went up to 16 and I the site was having Rank:1 for a specific keyword.
    But to my surprise it went down to 3 & number of pages indexed gone back to one. !!!
     
    dotcompals, Mar 19, 2006 IP
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    i had the same problem too. google deindexed all my pages except my mainpage. now it is back to 50%. will wait a month to see if it grows.
     
    singaporebeauty, Mar 20, 2006 IP
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    I completely agree. What I have done with one site is using a script, grabbed a piece of the content of each page and used it as the META DESCRIPTION for that page. I now have all the important pages for that site indexed.

    I would also recommend a mod-rewrite if that's feasable, it helped me out when I did it a few months ago.
     
    roseplant, Mar 21, 2006 IP