I can certainly agree with the OP that all the law suits are ridiculous. It basically becomes only the rich who can afford to protect their intellectual property rights. It is theft. They need to call it theft and treat it like theft everywhere and it will diminish(it will never stop). Ah the good ol' days, how I miss them.
Lol, where is piracy legal? Canada Spain The funny one is Iran. Iran it's legal to share microsoft word and the government does this. They have set up programs to do it. You just can't share programs made in Iran. Call me thick, but you should at least research.
If Piracy were legal in Canada, ISO hunt wouldn't be sweating it out in court. Regarding Iran, intellectual property of international companies and citizens (specially Americans) is not protected since they don't have copyright agreements with those countries, probably got the counter effective economic sanctions to blame for that. Piracy is CRIMINALIZED in Iran if the rights of the maker are recognized (obviously). Yes, you are thick.
It wouldn't. I'll venture a guess that 90% of the people disparaging piracy have some pirated software, music, or movies in their possession at this very moment. The record companies have been trying to stop people from making copies of music since the days of cassette tapes. What you wind up with is a series of laws with a variety of penalties ranging from fines to jail time for possession or distribution of unlicensed digital assets. It becomes like pot smoking. Everyone does it, but only the distributors do meaningful time. The laws dramatically cut down on the overall incidence and the grey market turns into a black market.
That´s strange - I live in Spain and piracy is illegal, as it is in all EU countries. Thick probably - thief definitely
Do some research just because you live in a country doesn't mean you know the laws. Your prejudging gets your point no where in making a valid point. Do some research at least would you? I'm not arguing isohunt's point here.
I love how when people are losing an argument they demand everyone go do "research" in place of making an actual point... here's an idea, you go do your research. You made the claim that piracy is legal in Spain. prove it.
By demonstrating that when people do it there is never any grounds for legal redress. He wouldn't be able to prove it by going here though.
http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-and-link-sites-declared-legal-in-spain-100315/ http://torrentfreak.com/sports-streaming-torrent-links-site-victorious-in-court-100510/ http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-rampant-among-spanish-government-officials-100403/ Now show me some evidence against it. --------------------------------------------- Oh and for all of you that think I'm a pirate. I use free software as it works just as good. Music - Fruity Loops and I get almost all of my music besides that from up and coming kids throwing out free lyrics. Tons of them are around nowadays. I'm not into mainstream music so much. Sites - I use free donation pictures sites, write my own articles, and don't steal anything unless it's by mistake and even then most of the time they couldn't do anything because the policy was a little shaky. Like if Blizzard Entertainment said I couldn't use photos of the game even though they did start me with a fan site kit. Movies - I only watch free documentaries (watched a free navy seal one about their life just a couple of weeks ago) for the most part rarely ever going to theatres where it's the only place I can sit and watch a movie. I get too bored unless I feel I'm in it. Software - I don't pay for software because paint/gimp work just as well as vector/photoshop. Maybe at times there's some things you can't do, but for the most part you can do it freehand and I don't need to be anything high tech most of the time. Stay on topic and argue the issue not the person unless in fact you do know me, but for the most part your getting it wrong.
I just read the first link, I found it so stupid that I didn't bother reading the rest of your post. The link talks about how filesharing sites are legal as long as they don't infringe on copyright. Awesome "evidence" on the legality of Piracy in spain. Spain is a member of both EU and WTO and has to respect their agreements.
First line in the first post after the first paragraph. Despite many rulings which have declared file-sharing sites legal if they don’t profit directly from copyright infringements later paragraph In making his decision the judge also looked at the finances of the site. He said the site was not a business since the operator of Elrincondejesus made no direct or indirect profits from its operation. Apparently on a roll after confirming non-profit file-sharing sites are legal, he gave users of those sites a nice surprise too. BTW isohunt is for profit. I'm against that. File Sharing is not illegal and can never be illegal. Everyone does a form of file sharing on a daily basis.
File sharing isn't inherently illegal, just like torrents and P2P aren't inherently illegal, which is how the judge, correctly, ruled. The sharing of copyrighted material without permission, piracy and copyright infringement are illegal though and the judge didn't say anything even remotely contrary to that. You are perfectly able to share any material you own or any material which licence allows it by any method you want. What you can't do, and is illegal, even in spain, is share material owned by others when the licence forbids it. The fact that you tried to palm this facile little non-story off as some kind of judicial win for piracy shows the level at which you operate. You have already outed yourself as a defender of thieves, so i guess we shouldn't have expected too much in the way of honesty from you.
do you guys use real arguments or pre judgement only? You at least included some real facts, but he saw sharing of the copyrighted content for non-profit as sharing.
Are you literally making this up as you go along? He ruled that "file sharing" is legal and that an "index of links" isn't copyright infringement. HE ISN'T SAYING THAT DOWNLOADING OR DISTRIBUTING COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL IS LEGAL. In fact, the case was to determine if the individual was breaking the law you claimed didn't exist. Read what he is actually saying instead of attempting to make copyright infringement interchangeable with "file sharing".
I like downloading foreign music that I can't buy here, and I also download shows that I've already seen some of on TV so they're not losing money from me if I wasn't going to buy the thing in the first place.
You are right sir. Spain was one of the last countries to join the agreement. Thank you for giving a real argument. Well, I think everyone is sick of this whole argument anyways, so lets shift a bit. Do you think it's unreasonable to ask for a return policy on movies? I mean almost everything besides software, music, movies and etc has some form of return policy. Why not music and movies for instance? I guess you could say you already saw it, but what if the movie is that bad? You have no way of returning it and you feel duped. I mean trailers nowadays are getting very good at falsify the movie to help promote it and make it look better. That's not true and has no actual evidence to back it up since this is something that would have a really hard time to get statistic information on anyways. No matter where you stand on the issue. http://www.myce.com/news/adult-film-ceo-embraces-piracy-as-free-promotion-33454/