I hate fluid designs. Am I a bad person?

What other sizes besides 770px do people design for? Fluid designs are great when I don't use banners but when I do, and I scroll over it all looks so yucky.
Am I a bad person?

 

I wouldn't say so at all, I use static designs for quite a few of my sites -- in fact, I now realize I don't really use fluid at all really. Fluid is much harder to make it look good for, for all resolutions, so often I'll just use static so it looks the same for everyone.

 

I find placing banner ads on fluid designs much easier then on a fixed width, you have so much more space to work with!

 

well my problem is that say i have a large jpg as a brand logo on the left side of my site. Well if the whole site is fluid it looks great unit you minimize. Then everything starts jumbling above and below the image while the image stays in place. Maybe it is just me?

So how do I make sure the site fills the screen but no more than the viewable area without making the width fluid?

 

I like both, IF SOMEBODY BUYS A BIG MONITOR THEY WANT TO SEE A BIG WEB SITE else they would by a small monitor

 

Who cares what it looks like when you minimize the browser?

 

I thought that was the point of fluid design so people could still see as much information as possible on the screen.

 

Wheny you said minimized, I was thinking you meant physically make the browser window smaller (not a smaller screen)

 

Not exactly factual. Many people, including myself, like a large monitor so that more reasonably sized applications can co-exist on it. It's very handy to have my MUA (about 600px wide), a browser or two (at 800px wide) and Emacs (at about 550px width) open more or less side by side.

I cannot imagine wasting all that screen size on a single app.

cheers,

gary

 

The best way to sole that problem is to make the banner in sections so it can resize too.

Checkout the banner in the website lease-hire.co.uk in my sig it is made in 3 parts left center and right it is the center section that grows as needed.

 

that is an interesting idea. ill have to look into it.

 

Could you explain it with more details? How you prepare an image for such a web site to appear clear in any monitor resolution? What if you have a Flash header?...

 

guys, I do it all the time, I like when the info fills the screen, that makes possible for the user to see the most you have one the site, of course it needs to be well thought out.

You can determine the screen width with javascript and(or without) cookies like this

<script LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
	document.cookie = "SW=" + screen.width + "; expires= Thu,31-Dec-2200 00:00:00 GMT;";
</script>

Code (markup):

also, if you can use programming like PHP or ASP, try to include pictures of different sizes like

select case request.Cookies("SW")
    case <1000
         response.write "<img src='img1.jpg'>"
    case else
         response.write "<img src='img2.jpg'>"
end select

Code (markup):

this is an xample of ASP script,

you should do the same for FLASH also.

I am not good at JavaScript, but you can switch between the images via JavaScript like this (if I am not mistaken of course)

									<script>
SW = screen.width
if SW<1000
{
		document.write('<img src="img1.jpg">');
}
else
{
		document.write('<img src="img2.jpg">');
}


	</script>

Code (markup):

I think it works like this for JavaScript, please correct me if I am mistaken.

 

I even resize my forms depending on screen width on one of my sites, that helps a lot to have a page with better placement of content

 

...but the Javascript is reliable enough? There are no cross-browser problems?

 

No you're definitely not! You're not the only one who don't like fluid designs...

 

Na javascript is not the best option here as it is said that 10% of people have javascript turned off and this being such an important part of the site it would be a bad idea.

Though the ASP or PHP idea is a good way.

 

Basically I check whether the screen width is more than a 1000 or no. Thus I excape the case of creating one image for 800x600, one for 1024x768, one for 1280x960 etc...

 

Why dont you like fluid designs though?

I think you should do what you think is best and no you carnt be a bad person just cos you like to do things diffrently.

Fluid designs work good for me but you are not me so do as you think is best.

 

So you're going to send me a wide page because my monitors are 1024, 1280 and 1600 px wide? But my browser windows are only 800px wide, simply because it's easier to read text that isn't more than about 65 characters wide per line. Compare posts on this forum for readability in windows of 800 width and some gargantuan maximized width.

That's not very nice.

cheers,

gary