I got space in google first page..

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  1. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I find seo most interesting.
    I have spent months on different theories just for one article.
     
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  2. swiftmed

    swiftmed Peon

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    #42
    yeah i have just read your linkbaiting article, and the value of outbound links....i must say both are very good indeed!
     
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    showup Well-Known Member

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    #43
    U did a great deal of job man.

    I just saw U have about 500 backlinks.
    zihh.com gives 3,460 results in google
    www.zihh.com gives 87 results in google
    link:www.zihh.com gives 11 results in google (5 shows up)
    Google Page rank - 3


    OK. What kind of strategies U have used in key word targeting? Is there any specific tricks that U did to get this. Would you like to share your experience so that many more here will get benefited?

    Thanks

    Showup
     
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  4. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #44
    that was fun to read........you guys made my day
     
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  5. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Actually banned people aren't allowed to post so it might be hard for him to share is secrets.:p
     
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    swiftmed Peon

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    hahaha, at least it gave sombody a laugh i guess! LOL
     
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    chandra.seo Peon

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    #47
    you have really done a great job,so please share idea in which way you could achieved this job
     
    chandra.seo, Mar 13, 2007 IP
  8. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #48

    You certainly do have a hard time reading don't you? You do this all over. You post without reading the whole thread. In this case a simple look at his user would identify him as banned at the moment.:p
     
    visio, Mar 13, 2007 IP
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    john_nyc Active Member

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    #49
    very nice -- i am stuck at 16th -- i need to move up 6 more spots to make the first page for "celebrity gossip" on google.com
     
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    #50
    congratulations! how much traffic do you get for that keyword alone?
     
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  11. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #51
    I've just read all of this and it started with the posts I've quoted. I guess that swiftmed didn't have to hope - since he already has his site on the first page for his preferred keywords, which leaves me confused about what he was hoping for... the first page of google.co.in for "website directory"?

    Visio has probably seen too many people posting on dp asking questions about why their sites fail in the search engines while also selling seo services. His first response probably wasn't personal but a kneejerk reaction to your post.
     
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  12. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #52
    sarah, just so you know (and not really defending swiftmed, since I don't know that particular situation) but visio has been making a point of making it personal lately. His actual first post in the thread was in response to someone mentioning "seo experts on dp" with a sarcastic reply:

    It's par for the course. He was slamming dp in general as having a bad rep amongst the community in another thread, flaming, etc., generally being argumentative because he knows that if people call him on it or take the bait he can get them infracted.

    -Michael
     
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  13. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #53
    Only when people are providing nonfactual information.


    DP has a bad name, that is not my fault and it isn't my fault folks sit here and post without any knowledge. I will post when I see that. I could really careless if someone gets an infraction.
    I have friends here at DP and there are folks that provide good info and are a real asset to the community but it seems to be overshadowed by the other who don't know anything who in one post ask seo questions and in another post as an expert.

    I have a big problem with you and minstrel. If you just woke up and worked on your own sites a little you would realize half the stuff you talk about is outdated.
    I state things based on personal experiances mainly. Otherwise I will state it is a theory I have. I have helped hundreds upon hundreds of webmasters with free advice. I am here to help just like I frequent the other forums for the same reason. To have members like you so arrogantly, ignorantly posting gets to you after a while. And you can say I am the one spouting nonesense. That is your perogative. I could really care less what you think personally.

    There are 2 large companies I provide consulting for in exchange for presence it provides. I am well educated in seo, I am certainly not perfect and am still learning as all of us are but when I say something I say it from personal experience. Again if you don't believe that then that is your problem.

    And lastly I am not here to bash anyone not even minstrel. I just am trying to keep the facts straight. Most of the folks at SeoChat agree with what I say. Now if your wondering if were all loons let the members tell you. We have several large companies who come for advice there, we have members from 2003, 2004, 2005 who have been using and applying the advice they have given over the years and keep coming back. It is must be pretty accurate.

    The problem with alot of DP webmasters is they tend to sit at DP instead of testing what they read and hear. They will believe someones word. While members can gain a reputation as providing good advice always test it yourself. Try out different methods. Learn what works for you and your sites. If you do I am sure you will find things alot different.

    Sorry for going on about it. If you still wish to bash my name that is fine. I am not worried. I quit offering Seo services so you can't hurt me there:D - Actually the reason I quit mainly was because of all the nonesense. I might as well promote my own sites which is what I have been doing lately.

    And again I am not here to bash anyone, and certainly not DP. DP is a great forum its just not the best seo forum.
     
    visio, Mar 13, 2007 IP
  14. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #54
    Let's just look at this, shall we?

    You came on the scene a year and a half ago, with this post:

    In that year and a half, you have yet to hit top 100 for any of those terms, and not even in the top 1000 on Yahoo at all for them. You have 1 phrase in the 300's on Google. Your next question shows exactly how little you understood about what you were trying to do:

    6 months later, and you were still struggling to understand some things:

    You didn't know much, but you were still willing to admit that you didn't. 3 months after that, you were giving advice as if you knew it all, but when push came to shove, you still had a little humility:

    Now, 9 months later, and somehow you seem to have managed to delude yourself into believing that not only are you a true SEO master, but also that you know so much it allows you the arrogance to insult and belittle anyone you fucking feel like when you don't understand what is being talked about in terms of complex relationships, or if you just happen to disagree with them, even if those people have over 10 years experience in the industry to weigh against your piddling 18 months.

    So, what happened? How is it that you came upon this grand knowledge of yours, this new found genius?

    You don't really know that much, and your arguments illustrate that fact quite clearly. Difference now is, now you don't seem to know that you don't know. I'm pretty sure I know why you act as you do though.

    I honestly would not boast that you charge for SEO. If someone from those companies happens to figure out that you're faking it, you'll probably be screwed.

    In many cases I think you personally, when it comes to SEO, would be hard pressed to recognize "nonfactual information" if it came up and bit you square on the ass.

    -Michael

    PS -
    This is coming from a guy who very recently was badmouthing SEOChat as "people talking about stuff they know nothing about".
     
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  15. dazzlindonna

    dazzlindonna Peon

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    #55
    gotta love a good argument! :)
     
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  16. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #56
    You act like you dug up treasure. I don't deny any of that and infact refer to it to it in some of my consultations. It helps them realize they too can learn very fast. I admit I was green, very green. I have since learned alot. I don't rank for those phrases for 3 reasons. #1 "web hosting" is too large a phrase to rank for in 1 yr. The other two are not very effective for me at this time. I actually for the past 6-8 months have done very little on that site.

    And the good folks at SeoChat know all this as they were the reason why I learned seo. Without that forum I highly doubt I would be where I am today.
    And if you think you have hurt me by brining this all up you haven't. I don't mind. I do ask that you take my url out though. If I wanted to advertise it would be in my sig.

    But again you really can't hurt me by bashing me, digging up green posts or anything. As I said before I no longer offer seo services so there isn't much you can do to me. You could convince Google I am not an seo though and maybe they would listen.

    As for the spat at SeoChat that is kind of embarrassing and my fault but the rest of the stuff I am not ashamed of. We all were like that one time. We all start at the same place, where we go is what makes us successes not where we came from.
     
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    And yet again, as with most of what you post, you missed the point. "Where you are today" does not justify your attitiude.

    What magical knowledge have you gained in the past 9 months that makes you think you know so much more than what you actually do? What infinite wisdom have you been blessed with that allows you to act like an arrogant ass, what mountain did you climb and what tablets did you return with that allow you to speak down to and pass judgement on others the way you constantly do?

    You know perhaps a fraction of what there is out there to know about this, and much less than many others around you. You repeatedly demonstrate in your arguments that you don't understand what is being talked about, yet still maintain this completely undeserved attitude of superiority. Why?

    -Michael
     
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    Sorry my friend but your the one who is completely missing it. I do not claim to be all knowledgeable. I said I have learned alot. I know everything that is needed to rank any site anywhere I want(with time). I think that is enough. I keep adapting to changing times and that, that is the only way to learn seo. The problem with alot of what you say is it is old. If you go back into SeoChat and read old, old threads you will notice alot of what you say was being preached. And don't tell me I am wrong. I know full well where you got your info and at that time it was good info, overall accurate. Times have changed however, what used to work now doesn't, factors have been completely removed, disvalued greatly and new ones are arriving. What worked in 2001 is just not realistic today. I am not here to boast, I really have nothing to gain by doing that. What I am trying to do is keep the webmaster community aware of what works and what doesn't, based on what webmasters like myself have ACTUALLY TESTED not something some nut said.

    I am not even saying I am smarter than you. I actually think you had some good points in previous threads. My problem with you is that you won't test anything, I know full well you haven't based on your side. This sounds biased but its true, had you tested the PR thing you would agree with me there is no way smart Google would use it as a factor.
    In this day and age you don't follow what someone says -don't follow what I say. Take what I say and test it. If I am wrong ignore it and go on. But if I am right how will you ever know unless you try it? Get rid of the bias and test - but what works consistently.

    The problem your having is using your little hands. You keep stating I am wrong, a fool, without proof. I don't provide the proof you do. That is the one main difference between DP and SeoChat. On seochat users will generally take your feedback and try it. On DP members tend to either thank you and forget or call you a liar and murder you.
    If you honestly test what I say and find it to be false by all means that is great. I you honestly try what I recommend and find it is all bull then feel free to send me a PM and let me know. I am ALWAYS LOOKING FOR USERS WHO ACTUALLY DO TESTS TO GIVE ME FEEDBACK. I always am open for that.
    But don't go stating things you know absolutely nothing about such as who my clients are, what I do, how much I make etc etc. That is childish. I have not done that to you and would appreciate you not doing that to me.
     
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    #59
    Ok, those closing lines pretty much sum it up. You are unable to follow what is going on. Where did I state those things again? Seriously, it's statements like that which bring your grasp on reality into question. Coupled along with the fact that earlier you claimed to win an argument with me in a discussion I wasn't part of, one really has to wonder.

    I'm not getting in the PR discussion with you again. You completely fail to understand the concept, still. I no longer care about that. This thread has nothing to do with PR. The things I posted also have very little to do with how much you know about SEO. The only reason I used the examples that I did was because IF you were some sort of SEO genius then MAYBE your dickish attitude when disagreeing with people would be somewhat understandable (do not read that as excusable, btw). As it is, instead, you seriously need to knock it off.

    -Michael
     
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    classifieds Sopchoppy Flash

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    #60
    OK I'll neg rep you. Get a grip. Don't attack people. Offer constructive advice. Don't take things personally. If I disagree with you it doesn't mean either of us are bad people or I don't like you. Bottom line is remember what you were supposed to learn in kindergarten.
     
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