I forgive the US if they elect Dr. Ron Paul

But, but, but terrorists are so misunderstood! It's not their fault they want to blow up the infidel. It's not their fault their religion commands them to do so. We must learn to be more tolerant of their intolerance! We must accept their faults as our own! It's not "us" that should be going after them, it is "they" who should be going after us! Afterall, whatever reason they want to kill us, it's "our" fault. Just ask a ron paul supporter

If only "we" would leave them alone, "they" wouldn't bother us anymore! That strategy has worked in Spa..., no, wait...it's worked in Ger...no, wait, yes yes yes!!!!, it worked in Fran..., no wait, it didn't work there either. Where the hell has that strategy worked?

If only we would stop going after them, we could better prepare for them to attack us, like we deserve!

I'll never understand the mentality of the nutters.

 

Twisted intelligence, the vast majority of intelligence at the time refuted much of Bush's claims.

Yellow Cake, Aluminum Tubes, Unmanned arial vehicles being shipped to the US, terrorist connections, you know those pesky bits of 'intelligence'

 

yeah removing saddam was a good thing. Lets see here:

he dint have WMD's yet every bush supporter says we had "claims" that he did. Wow, well i have heard a claim that you have WMD's im gonna kick your front door open and shoot you in the fucking head does that sound logical to you? I'm just protecting my nation...

Not to mention saddam hated terrorists now IRAQ is a breeding ground for terrorists.

WE.....


FAILED, HORRIBLY.

 

And quite proud of it too. You are from the palestinian terror-itories, right? As an islamist, you must really be enjoying this thread put on by ron paul supporters? I'm sure it must be very *gratifying* to see the infildels never sticking together like muslims do.

 

To be fair, even though I am far from a Bush supporter, and I was always against the war in Iraq. I myself did expect we would find at least a small amount of WMD's

 

You make the Texas sterotype sooooooooo true, you should be ashamed of yourself

 

You talk like its over, mistakes were made, no one denies that, but that is why we must stick it out, we must stabilize Iraq. The war is not over, and we have not been defeated, if we leave now, yes we are defeated, and Iraq goes back to its previous government. But if we finish what we started we all win.

 

LMAO AGREED!

 

Tons of intelligence that was wrong. Again, you're point is flawed logic.

You do realize that the US supported Saddam Hussein when he was using chemical weapons on Iran and his own people? You do realize that he was our ally in the middle east when he was murdering and raping his own people?

Anyway, I am waiting for that list of all of the terrorism I have been saved from that you know about.

As usual, Straw man arguments.

Paul has said it was bad foreign policy. Nothing to do with the American people, who were clearly the victims of the attack. Of course, some morons here endorse our foreign policy, which has caused a lot of hatred in the world.

When you don't want to talk about Huckabee, you'll fabricate a false position for another candidate. Huck's the one who thinks our policies are arrogant overseas. And he's YOUR man.

 

Actually he did have them, he did use them, the UN noted some were moved to Syria, and some were found. Not everyone has the intelligence or "honor" to see the facts. But they have been well documented.

Now, those that support terrorists, are sympathetic towards them, and hate America...they get really pissed off when all those sources come out. It goes against every grain of hatred they have. Some have complete melt downs over it, others just dismiss the sourced facts under the notion of delusion. Which one will you use?

Not as a ron paul supporter. As a ron paul supporter, it would be more appropriate to say "it's ok that you have them. We know we deserve to be attacked. If we give you money, flowers and chocolates, would you at least give us a little warning?"

Again, not true. Saddam gave terrorists that killed Jews (not a bad thing for a ron paul supporter though) in Israel through suicide bombings, 25k to each family. He had a long connection to terrorists, including al qaida, which I've documented here before. I see I'm going to have to crack out my bookmarks again. These always upset those that are sympathetic towards terrorists, but I see it's time.

You, are a failure. Perhaps you mean "we" as in ron paul supporters. Or "we" as in the al qaida terrorists that have been defeated in Iraq and around the world. Perhaps you mean "we" those who are sympathetic towards terrorists. In either of those cases, I agree, YOU have failed miserably.

 

Look Saddam was an evil prick that we put into power, if you honestly think there is a terrible void from him not being in the world anymore I cannot really understand that. We put him there we made him dangerous we gave him the gas he used on his own people and we took his ass to court and killed him and his whole family. Seems we got that part right. I don't like how it went down but I am not crying over the loss either.

I wasn't for the war either, actually got bitched out by the pagans I hang out with (check my sig, I mean really pagans) for saying that our foreign policy caused 9/11 and that we should be as pissed at our government as much as we are about crazy extremists. But there was a time when I felt that once we had started the mess in Iraq we should finish it even though I didn't agree with any of the reasons we went and didn't like Bush as a president at all. I really thought the folks in Washington must have some idea of how to finish it up for everyones benefit, I mean really they had to be smarter than me right?
Well it seems the answer is no. We are still there and the country is still fubar with no end in sight.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/27/iraq.cell/index.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/28/1067233172432.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18999503/

just a few, i just picked the first three i found, there were many more

 

A wise country Doctor once said,

"If the diagnosis was wrong, you have to change the treatment"

You mean they are going to resurrect Saddam Hussein? How long do you think it will take for Zombie Saddam to get WMDs?

It's statements like these that bring me down, and think that some people are beyond being reached. This isn't a game. Thousands of people have been, and are continuing to die. It's not about winning, it's about doing what is right. We shouldn't have gone in, we should just come home.

 

Mighty nice of you , but seriously... I think that's kinda cool. Forgiveness is a form of freedom too.

 

wow are you serious i know you had the IQ of the average texan but damn your below average now. You honestly going to bring up a year almost 16 years ago to justify invading iraq? We found them the first time and we gave them all the stuff they needed to make them with there war with iran! We had a big problem with saddam back then huh!

You sir should be voted the biggest joke of the year.

 

They really hit home, didn't they? It's called sarcasm. Sadly though, it's an honest reflection. How can I tell? You simply dismissed it as "strawman arguments." You always do this, when something hits home

Perhaps you were not aware. Americans ARE the American People. Those of us who live in America, are Americans.

Projectionism at it's finest. I don't like what Mike had to say in that recent article. I don't like the notion of closing Gitmo either. Although, unlike RP, Huckabee doesn't want to set our enemies free. There are any number of issues with Huckabee that I don't particularly care for. I'm watching closely. I may very well change my candidate because of some of these things. I'm man enough to stand behind what I support. If I feel my candidate waivers from that to far for my comfort, he will no longer be my candidate. Unlike some here, I won't compromise principle for popularity.

That's going to happen in a presidential race. Even you and grim, yourselves, have said there are things were Ron Paul stands on, that you don't like. If you need to hold me to a higher standard on than yourself, I can understand why

 

Gtech is inbetween a rock and a hard place.

He loves Huckabee, who hates Bush's Administration.

But he has spent years defending Bush, who himself has said that the WMD intel was bad, and Iraq had no connection to 9/11.

So now he seeks to discredit Bush's statements, while supporting him, while endorsing a candidate who criticizes him.

Forgive GTech if he sounds a little conflicted. He's trying to keep his story straight as it bounces through a maze of bad logic.

 

Come on, you can do better than that. Can't you?

Normally I'd say I was serving my country when you were breast feeding, but I'm starting to realize that I was well out of the Army by that point.

Please try harder. I know I'm asking a lot, but entertain me, at least

 

to change the treatment is one thing, to stop the treatment is a death wish

I think you know what i mean, but if your mind is that narrow i will clarify, he has supporters, other anti Americans like yourself, that will over throw what ever is their now, because the existing government id not yet competent.

Ok say we leave now, we pack up and go, will that end it? will we never have to deal with it again?

The answer is no, and we shouldn't leave there until the answer is yes, no matter how long it takes.

 

Ad Hominem Attack

I see, so in America, every American endorses every policy?

That's the most honest thing you have written all day.

If there are things you don't agree with Huckabee on, I can respect that. Just let it be known. Don't shrink from it. Let's talk about what Mike stands for and whether you agree. I have been trying to get a policy debate going here for months. Less slander and insults, more facts and logic.