I forgive the US if they elect Dr. Ron Paul

That's right, like most of you know i don't like Americans. If they vote for paul, i will forgive, or atleast consider it.

Peace

Turhapuro

 

What in the hell do we need your forgiveness for, and why would the election of Ron Paul change your mind?

 

Oh my, i better vote for him, i really need you to forgive my country, we just cant go on with out it.

 

Indeed, i'm your only saviour! Now, be good little boy and tell me your sins America, i'm listening!

In all seriousness, Dr. paul seems to be the only intelligent person i have seen that is American. So, if you elect him, i will forgive you for being a bully, and for killing bunch of crazy people.

Peace

Dr. Turhapuro

 

I hear a lot of Ron Paul, but i havent had a chance to check him out, i kind of liked fred thompson

 

Ron paul is a very intelligent person. I never heard of him before and i was pushing for my own Governor bill richardson since he is pretty smart person as well. But after seeing some videos on ron paul and his views this man is exactly what we need as a president. he wants to take out the IRS for god sakes and people still want people like guiliani as president! are kidding me? he is literally the stupidest person out of all the people running how on earth could anyone be stupid enough to vote for anyone but ron paul?

 

Thank you for your forgiveness.

 

Ron Paul wants to withdraw troops, i feel thats a mistake, i don't think ill be voting for him.

Here is why i feel its a mistake:

1: Iraq is a mess, if we leave it like that we will take on more anger and hatred, and might as well give an open invitation to attack us.
2: The Iraqi government is not stable and will more than likely fall right back into the condition it was in.
3: Our allies benefit from our occupation. Not too many people going to attack our allies when Americans are a few miles away.
4. I feel if we stick it out, a relationship will be built with the Iraqis, which will lead to peaceful communication in the future.
5. If we leave, terrorist will move into iraq, and use it as a breeding ground for more terrorist.

These are just a few reasons based on my own opinions. I feel they are logical, valid reasons to stick out the Iraq occupation, atleast until a decent relationship and a stable government can be built.

 

The same people that speculate this are the same people that said the Iraq invasion would be a "cakewalk". This is one point in which I agree with Ron Paul. We had no right to invade in the first place there were no WMDs and Iraq had no connection to 9/11.

 

No there weren't any found, but, at the time we thought they were there, and that is a valid reason to occupy. Besides, if it was a mistake then it was a mistake, we are there now and should finish the job. My mother always made me clean up my mess. We made a mess, we should clean it up.

 

you can clean up the mess by leaving. If you observe Iraq, what good have you done? 600.000 Iraq´s dead, how are you going to justify it? I think the majority of American's are just plain dumb!

 

hey now, 70% of america wants out of IRAQ. the other 30% are in texas or the south. the red necks that know nothing.

although i do agree we need to leave asap we gotta at least move out slowly enough and let them have a chance to take back control over the masses, or else it will just be chaos and fighting for power over there. And then Knowing those looneys living over there Iran would probably invade Iraq just because there little dicks like that and it starts all over again.

 

Iraq's government is brand new, all officials have been replaced. Most don't have the experience needed to run a country. We are teaching them, If we up and leave, they will be easily overthrown by any group with a few guns. And our occupation there will be truly pointless. Would you leave your child unattended in the wilderness if he couldnt walk yet?

 

So you admit Iraq is a puppet government, not one reflecting the will of it's people. Glad to hear that from a Neocon.

Even when Paul Wolfowitz, secretary of War, and world bank chairman (basically Wolfowitz organizes the destruction of countries, then hands them loans) was calling for convicted felon and embezzler, the American-educated Ahmed "George Washington of Iraq" Chalabi to be "installed" into power, people still don't get what business America is in. Then Chalabi, who is the one who created the Iraq WMD intel through codename "Curveball", shows up at the 2006 Bilderberg meeting in Ottawa, and the picture is made clear

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By the way, did you see one of the "celebrities" of Economics, Jim Cramer calling the federal reserve a bunch of unaccountable thieves? And how he was afraid to criticize them because other media worshipped them like a "temple". Jim was speaking to Ron Paul today.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8teEHdCrFqE

 

Actually the US had plenty of right to invade. No peace treaty was ever signded between Iraq and US coalition forces after the 1991 war.

 

Technically it was just a continuation of the first gulf war.

 

Don't worry he won't get elected in the first place.

 

Oh? So acts of aggression are justified if there is no pact promising no aggression?

Please tell me you were sarcastic.

The only time war is justified is if you've been attacked, or they have made a move to attack you; and occupation is NEVER justified, it's expensive and pointless to rebuild your enemies: it costs you, and builds up their resentment of you.

You can't attack others because they MIGHT be a threat. That's no different than justifying taking land for "lebensraum", living space. You're just protecting your "self-interests" and "national security".

Pre-emptive war has never before been openly advocated by a Christian leader, with the exception of pretender-christian truthfully athiest-evolutionist Hitler.


Besides, as Fox reported, George W. Bush is the grandson of a convicted nazi financier and accused fascist plotter in the Business Plot, who profited off Auschwitz slave labour via Union Banking Company (which the Bush family is being sued for by two Auschwitz slave-laborers today) and continued to trade with the Germans after Pearl Harbour (so assets were seized by FDR for 'trading with the enemy').

Put simply, there is no American still alive with more ties to Bin Laden or Hitler, than our current President. Bush's father was eating dinner with Bin Laden's older brother on the day before 9/11.

On another note, Neil Bush had a dinner appointment with the major Vice President Bush donor Hinckley family's, Scott Hinckley, brother of John Hinckley jr., who tried to kill President Reagan, the day after the shooting. In the event of it being successful, the son of a major Bush supporter, would have killed Reagan, allowing Bush to rise to power within 60 days of Reagan's being elected.

H.W. Bush also owned Zapata Offshore, which was involved in the Bay of Pigs (remember he was a CIA director, even though he lied and said he was not), which is often an incident claimed to be related to JFK's death.

H.W.'s father Prescott Bush worked with Allen Dulles (who met Hitler with brother John Foster Dulles) at Nazi front organization Brown, Brothers, Harriman, who was the CIA director involved in the Bay of Pigs, fired by JFK, and who later investigated JFK's death on the Warren Commission along with Gerald Ford who later appointed George H.W. Bush as CIA director.


Nepotism is great, isn't it? Check all my facts please, learn the truth for yourselves. To think I used to be a Bush-supporter, until I spent more than 10 minutes researching the truth

I'd suggest any Bush supporters out there do the same, or admit in your mind the possibility of this being truth.

Hell it makes a lot more sense that the WTC guarded by Marvin Bush, was crashed by evil globalists than it does that a bunch of cave people hate "freedom" caused a 600*F fire that collapsed it (I cook my oven at 650*F for pizzas).

The worst part of all this; this is all from major mainstream sources, and the only accusation, Smedley Butler's about the attempt to stage a fascist dictatorship, is from the long-time, most decorated marine in U.S. history.

I was a diehard supporter of the Iraq invasion, I spent many a day on THESE forums bashing 9/11 truthers, but in order to do so, I had to research, and when I did, I kept seeing these facts, and I couldn't ignore them. The truth set me free.

 

no, that's not a valid reason to start an aggresion war against another country. Not as long as the US has thousands of wmds. It has no right to stop others from having them too

 

The 1990-1991 Gulf War, the 1991-2003 No-Fly Zone War, and the 2003 Gulf War 2 are one continious war started in response to the Iraq invasion and rape of Kuiwait.

In fact the US was in a continual state of war with Iraq in the "No Fly Zone War" 1991-2003

http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html