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Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by caroline, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. #1
    ... but the coop ad network sure works for Yahoo, with fast results too! After two weeks of getting targeted back links, one of my relatively new (and sandboxed!) sites ranks #2 for my main kw, with the traffic reaching all time highs.
    SEMrush
    Thanks DP! :)
     
    caroline, Jan 16, 2005 IP
    SEMrush
  2. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    Oh it works for Google allright ! Slightly different needs and demands but it works very well once you address those. :)
     
    Foxy, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  3. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Same here, instant #1s on Yahoo but hardly any traffic, even though they are supposed to by high volume search phrases. Google SERPs follow suit in 4-6 weeks for me. They do drag in the traffic.
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  4. nevetS

    nevetS Evolving Dragon

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    I'm seeing many more referrals from non-google se's lately. G-referrals are pretty steady, but my rankings haven't changed too much. One thing I've seen is my page-count per visitor has gone way up. I guess that means I'm targetting the right keyword phrases.
     
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  5. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    I've also noticed huge improvements in Yahoo. Woohoo! I'll take it... :D
     
    ViciousSummer, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  6. joeychgo

    joeychgo Notable Member

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    #6


    Please explain what you mean Foxy
     
    joeychgo, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  7. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    Hi Foxy

    What are the slightly different needs and demands for Google?
     
    Patient, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  8. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    Talk about leaving us dangling :rolleyes:

    Come on Foxy, stop toying with us :D

    Cyclops.
     
    Cyclops, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  9. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    Ahh......How long's a piece of string?

    I think to start this one off I will mention on page SEO.

    Google seems to be quite particular in how it looks at and uses the on page seo. There seems to be a set pattern that it likes and any change in that will let the serp slip. Internal linking is important with the links, title and H1.

    It appears [note how general I am being] that if the link from the coop to the index page [main kwp] is the same as the title, h1, nav and page text anchor links then the following nav links to other pages [read theming] with the same format also get boosted :)
     
    Foxy, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  10. l234244

    l234244 Peon

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    Foxy, I just clicked your Ski France link and my AVG antivirus popped up saying virus detected.
     
    l234244, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  11. Arnica

    Arnica Peon

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    Ditto for me Foxy.
     
    Arnica, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  12. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    On that site?

    Golly thats a goodie!!

    Where does it say it is coming from? If you can!

    How can you have a virus resident on a site? Anyone care to explain to someone who doesn't have these problems as a Mac user.

    But yes you are right to look at the ski site - it has some interesting facets to it :)
     
    Foxy, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  13. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    I, too get the same warning with different virus detection software. I really like Foxy's brief teaser...but I wonder if it is possible to elaborate. Specifically on G's perception of coop links.

    I have observed that Yahoo shows these links very quickly. G does not show them, but I beleive we are not seeing what is really in G's backlink index.

    I have been chasing some highly competetive keywords for some time now. I was once placed #1 under this keyword a few years ago and could not process orders fast enough. Since I have joined this network (3 weeks ago) I have noticed no visible change in what G displays as bls. However my positioning has gone from #10 to #6. Yet my PR dropped on the last update from PR 6 to PR 5.

    I have read that many believe that PR has become purely entertainment. Does this support that thought , I wonder?
     
    Homer, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  14. l234244

    l234244 Peon

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    I noticed some kind of popup appeared just before your page loaded. The AVG indicated some kind of virus/trojan horse dialer. Might want to take the link down in your sig until you sort it out :)
     
    l234244, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  15. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    Thanks - I think it might have been a comment in the blog that had been placed there by a poker company before I withdrew that facility - I have sorted the mysql db and cleared the two comments.

    Please let me know - Thanks
     
    Foxy, Jan 17, 2005 IP
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    MSN and Yahoo are both delivering good results for my keyword phrases.
     
    Infiniterb, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  17. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #17
    Sorry that I have been not elaborating hugely but my day is pretty heavy at the moment. I will take it firther soon.

    First though get the allins' as good as you can get - allinurl is normally relatively easy as no one bothers, however imho it is now important.

    Some time ago [years] I set up a site world-ok to serve as a themed hub to all the others as I did not do reciprocal linking - this site is in a mess right now as it has served its importance and needs rebuilding but what I have noticed is that some of its folders/directories, for example ski france, with a kwp url internally will shift to the top very quickly given the right pointers.

    Basically it goes like this www.xx-x.com/k-w-p/k-w-p.htm

    Now that will give you, normally, number 1 for that phrase - couple that with the title, h1, anchor text, navigation and footer links and you are starting to see where I am coming from

    It is absolutely paramount that you do NOT stuff anything with drivel - you must be absolutely word perfect and to the point [right up my ally - but even then I get sidetracked]. Make sure that the order is
    Title [obviously]
    H1
    Logo with same alt and title [although I have noticed that these two can alternate without problem]
    Anchor link [sometimes in the H1]
    Navigation Links
    Content
    Footer [ and it does not seem to matter with these links whether they be 1 or 100 although I think there must be a limit somewhere]

    If possible write it all in php [I have noticed that when I have changed the sites to php they improve, marginally] and use css to make a quick loading page [just like Google]

    Now I know you will all say nothing new here, and you will be correct, but it is the "perfectness" that is important.

    Go and look at Yahoo for "modular homes" - I haven't got this one finished, changing from htm to php or correct yet [as I am too busy and the site is not important] but it is no1 [and also in both MSNs] at this moment. When I have used the coop to point links at it, it moves up in Google. Now to make it correct for google I need to alter the title, comment, H1, etc to just the same as the anchor text - you can tell me what I need to do :)
     
    Foxy, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  18. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    Are you saying that in your experience that e.g. if your target kwp is "ski france" then your title/h1 etc should be exactly that kwp. Many/most people will usually make their title/h1 longer by including secondary key terms?
     
    Patient, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  19. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Secondary KWs should have their own pages...
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  20. linkgangster

    linkgangster Peon

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    I'd like to know whether this works for Google.
     
    linkgangster, Jan 18, 2005 IP