I can tell you the future on the middle east. Maybe some one should tell Iran!!

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  1. Adsenseking44

    Adsenseking44 Banned

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    #21
    Even though politics can get firey im gonna take some time out and havea laugh about that one mate.:D
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Future when u start talking like this u isolate yourself from humanity. Isreal also says they are in the right and they are gods chosen people. This is the problem when u bring religion into a dispute over land. Why not look at each other as fellow human beings? Dont u think both ur gods would want that?:)
     
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    #23
    So you think that the Irainian president who you openly admit you admire is now lying?
     
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    #24

    I see it too...it reminds me alot of a parking lot
     
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    #25
    Current Iranian leadership, like American Christians are rabid apocalyptics who seek to immanentize the eschaton, so it ought to come to no surprise that they do not give a damn about possible widespread destruction (Just like Dispensationalist Christians).
     
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    #26
    YEAH........ whatever he said !!
     
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    #27
    What did he say lol. I noticed some really really really big words. :D:D
     
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    #28

    I must stop you here at this false statement. If you are referring to Ahmadinejad recent statement, then you are wrong. Ahmadinejad didn’t call for the destruction of Israel or wipe it out of the map. He was referring to the Jewish-Zionist regime and not Israel. This was like Regan calling for the destruction of the Soviet communism or regime.

    So, on what evidence did you base your statement?

    Source Wikipedia
     
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    kafer Peon

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    #29

    I don't know who is the blind in here:confused: and again you are making false statements.

    Israel had always the intention to build nuclear weapon since its creation. So please check your facts right before writing.

    The Wisconsin Project On Nuclear Arms Control



    Federation of American Scientists

    1948-1962: With French Cooperation

    BBC UK helped Israel get nuclear bomb.

     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #30
    If Israel does in fact have nuclear weapons (I've seen nothing that confirms such, beyond speculation and assumptions), they, above all others, have clearly demonstrated responsibility with them.

    After all, Israel has bent over backwards for peace in the region while persistently being attacked by nutjobs that believe they are getting virgins for doing so. For all the wars arab countries have launched against Israel and had their butts handed to them on a platter, if in fact Israel has nukes, there is no question that they have used tremendous restraint in using them. If anyone's had the right to use such a weapon against it's enemies, it's certainly Israel.
     
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    #31
    Could not agree more. This quote here i am going to lock in my brain and remember for the rest of my life. Israel has put up with way to much crap. I wonder what they will do with Iran though.
     
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    #32
    Also i read an interesting peace on the way the conflict would pan out between Israel and Iran. "its called the four day war" which is a very realistic situation and its very scary.
     
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    #33
    What if I bring you a million evidences that the Islamic republic of Iran is publicly calling for wiping out Isreal from the map of the world?

    Do you know that from the point of Mullahs, there is no Isreal in the world to be wipped out?

    Do you know that there have been newspapers stopped and journalists arrested just because they wrote "Isreal" in their newspaper? Go support somebody else man, they are too filthy to defent.

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    #34
    Pretty disgusting statement here by you kafer. I know scholars who speak persian, and have interpreted his comments as meaning for the destruction of Israel. Israeli's will die a bloody death. Judaism is inferior and will soon be extinct. I could go on for longer. But it just is disgusting the comments. And yet you are defending them. Shouldn't even be worthy of a reply this comment of yours.
     
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    #35
    I think the israel already confirmed it.

    because israel is not stupid.
    having a nuclear weapon is one thing, but using it is another thing.
    they will not use it close to their country, where just wind can simply bring the cloud of radio active back to israel.
    US will not use nuclear to attack mexico, they will use it in far away country, like iran, north korea, china, rusia where they save from radioactive.
     
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    #36
    probably true. but i think Israel fears the worlds reaction aswell. Even if Israel used a nuke i seriously couldn't see anyone sticking up to them or doing anything other verbally condemning them and possibly imposing economic sanctions. Russia may be the only one to impose economic sanctions. But also the wind factor with nuclear weapons is true. This is another reason why Israel hasn't dropped one yet, (not a fart lol) . But interestingly enough Israel has over 200 of them and if their existence is under threat they have procedures in place to crush the muslim world. But i doubt they would use nukes unless under attack. It wouldn't be a nuclear pre emptive strike, just not on the cards.
     
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    #37
    Scholars or people in the street do not represent the official stand. Official statements might be taken seriously but not from stupid scholars.

    Officially, Iran’s foreign minister denied that Tehran wanted to see Israel “wiped off the map,” saying Ahmadinejad had been misunderstood. "Nobody can remove a country from the map". So what else do you want?


    On the opposite side of the hate speeches. For instance, in 2001 Rabbi Yosef (The spiritual leader of Israel's ultra-orthodox Shas party) was widely criticized for what was interpreted as a call for the unconditional annihilation of Arabs, saying:
    Similarly, I think the above statement should be laughed at and ignored.
     
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    #38
    There is another possible reason why Iran may be developing Nuclear weapons.

    As I understand it, there is a great deal of rivalry building up between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The sunni Wannabi (?) branch of Islam dominates Saudi Arabia. It also has the holy cities of Mecca and Medina. As such, it has positioned itelf as being at the centre of the Muslim world.

    The Iranian government is composed of the Shia branch of Islam, and would perhaps like to take Saudi Arabia's crown as being the 'true' centre of righteous Islam.

    Being the first of the two to have a nuclear capability (which, lets face it, Saudi Arabia will NEVER have as it is too busy enjoying the good life to do any WORK) would give Iran a huge 'boost' in the eyes of the faithful.

    (I'm not sure where Pakistan comes into this equation, as it is a Muslim country with a HUGE population AND existing nuclear weapons. Perhaps it is too far 'east' to excercise theo-geo-political influence ?? )

    On reflection, this is not much of a consolation, because of course the ultimate trump card in terms of Islamic respectability would go to whichever country destroyed Israel.... so maybe the Iranians would be tempted. They wouldn't launch a missile against Israel, but they might try and smuggle a nuke in overland, and then deny all knowledge of it. (or at least.... blowing enough smoke to prevent the allies from attacking, whillst still smirking and getting credit for the attack in the Muslim world)

    Meow Purr.
     
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    #39

    Don’t worry! Everyone is going nuclear in that region.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/15/news/nuke.php
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #40
    They serve a purpose alright, but it is not to display delusions. Alamuhamjihad makes these statements much like any other bully... To invoke a particular reaction. Much like Saddam ignoring the world's requests, Alamuhajihad seeks to provoke his enemies into a war.

    It's always the smallest of men that act like such bullies... Face to face, I could kick that guys ass!
     
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