I am sick of non-serious buyers and scammers

Hi,

I want this thread to be noticed by MOD's.

Ok story is simple and clear. I have sold a site on DP and here's the thread:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=68220

Everything went smooth. Transaction, I gave all the information including cpanel info and admin panel info to buyer kber so he can move or download the data to his server. MOD's can check my PM history where they can check for records. Buyer were happy and me also with this smooth transaction and data forward. I pushed the domain name very first day to buyer's namecheap account.

Now after 10 days of sale i moved my sites from vps to dedicated server and so don't have the backup of sold sites anymore. One day i checked how's the sold site doing and it wasn't loading for me. I send PM to buyer and told him that maybe he forgot to change the DNS. But what?

He is blaming me why i removed site from the cpanel without even taking it's backup. Man who m i suppose to care his site even after 10 days of sale?

I gave him all the info to download or move data, Pushed him domain very first day then what he wants more?

He was using my cpanel/hosting even next 10 days who gonna pay for that? I didn't promise about hosting or anything.

Guys now he wants me to refund him $22 lol. Yeh site sold for only $22.

He says why i removed the site from server without giving him notice .

Who's right who's wrong please advice.

Thank you.

 

The mods will not get involved.

My opinion is...

The buyer is an idiot. Once a site is sold, and the new owner moves it to their server. WHY would the seller keep a copy of the site and files??? The whole point in selling the site was because you did not want it anymore (beyond the financial motivation).

If you can prove you delivered the site to him via bandwidth logs, or correspondence, then you did your part. The fact he's an idiot will give him a "lesson learned" for his next buy.

When I buy a property, I make it clear that they keep a copy until I am done transferring and testing. Once it's done, I let them know. I also communicate this before the sale, and transfer of money. As a term of sale. However, I also keep a hard copy on a back up XHD when possible.

But that's me.


2 cents

 

I am honest as never before:

I wouldn't even bother and refund him $22, as my reputation cost much more. But! I wouldn't sell anything since on DP, there are other sites where you can sell same site for much more money...

 

Since the site you already sell it to him, he should be the one who do back-up for his "New site"! Didnt he know that webmaster always do back-up for their website frequently For Recovery purpose if any disaster happen? He is a Dumbass!

 

If the site was fully in his control and capable of being accessed, and him fulfilling his part of the agreement (purchasing it), I would think you served your obligation (x10 ) to him, it's his own fault. You made no promise or even mentioned hosting, it was his own negligence in completing the transaction that caused this disagreement of sorts.

Sadly however, it may be more difficult to defend it if he tries to do a paypal claim/dispute (if payment method?), all of this is "intangible", and paypal rarely protects virtual sales.

 

The mods don't get involved in transaction disputes.

I agree that the onus is on the buyer in this case because you didn't offer any hosting services with the sale.

However I would say that it doesn't hurt you to check before you transfered your hosting around. I had one guy buy three sites off me, transaction completed fine, pushed the domains and moved on. Three months later I notice that he only transfered one of the sites, one was no longer resolving and the third was still on my server.

I sent him two PM's and an email warning that I would remove the sites from my server. Never got a response, two weeks later I took down the sites (they still haven`t been sorted by the new owner and all of this took place at least 3 months ago).

Now if he comes back and complains I can say that I gave him plenty of warning, he has the domains, files and database so it's no longer my concern as hosting was not part of the deal.

 

You all both wrong.
But you can just refund back the money
$22 is nothing lol

 

Can you tell him the same?

I am here to do business even it's for $1. BTW I have already refunded him because I can't face paypal dispute. That's what his last choice. Shame on buyers like him.

 

What a story. It seems to me like there should have been a set date on the calendar for when he should have the site removed. The problem is that while you didn't mention hosting, a site is often thought of as in its hosted form. So you really have to be specific that they have to move the site, files and domain, all to another host pronto, and by such and so date, before you pull it from the present server. The signal that it was not done was visible to you in the domain registration nameserver entries accessible on the Whois. And if you would have looked it up and seen that the nameservers were still your own, you could have given him a last nudge and the motivation to move it along, or else, buy the hosting package too. But, it was a bad deal because he didn't do what you expected him to do, and then blamed you for his ignorance. That's a bad situation. I hope that your next deal goes better.

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next time send the data on a cd to the buyers house too. That way you have proof of delivery.

 

silly situation all around... You shouldnt even have to post this. Buyer paid and should have acted appropriately and moved everything quickly and smoothly to avoid this type of situation

 

Dude, you;re sick of non serious buyers? Have you seen the number of scamming sellers in relation to the number of serious sellers? There is a 95% chance the seller on DP is a scammer. I'm sure the situation with buyers is not as alarming as with sellers.

 

DP is ok for small stuffs like articles and link sales

for something like a complete SITE never trust a buyer on DP. people in BST aren't serious with such larger deals..

 

Wahhhh!