I am going to get killed for this thread but here goes....

So, incapable of defending either point you bring up, you say you don't care what it says anyways? Now, that's an intelligent retort and probably goes to show why you felt you had to bring up the topic in the first place

 

I am not incapable of defending anything I bring up. I choose not to because I do not have to. I also have not in one of these posts said anything directly to you that was demeaning in anyway. Please do not do it to me.

 

Neptune your mind is just not open to hear new things.
so you read some shit books that say there is no god and now you think like that.

If it's so important to you, you would explor it deeply!

 

I do not read shit books that say their is no god. I use common sense. I am open to anything that can be proven. The existence of a greater being can not be proven, therefore, I do not believe.

 

Why did you start this thread? You don't want to even consider what's CORRECT... you just want to be ignorant.

 

We assassinate God’s character with accusations based on our lack of knowledge regarding His sovereignty. We haven’t got the capacity to fully understand the sovereignty of God. We don’t because we are only human. We barely understand the world we see, let alone the one we can’t (the spiritual world), let alone God Himself. Our lack of knowledge is staggering. We don’t have all the facts; all the evidence isn’t in. So what gives us the right to pass judgement on what God does or who He chooses when our understanding is so limited? We act as if we are the magistrate, God is in the dock, and we’ve passed down the sentence after only hearing the prosecution. There is more to this case than we realise. This is God’s response to Job’s prosecution. ‘Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements?’ (Job 38: 4-5a NKJV). God then spends the whole chapter asking Job questions he has no hope of answering, to point out how little Job knew. Then in chapter 39 God points out the wonder of nature. How dare we think we can assess God and explain His decisions when we don’t even understand fully the physical world in which we live?

 

I hope that more people like you will join in. Pretty mature. THANKS

 

I hate to debunk you on this because I don't necessarily belive in a god either, except you have one huge flaw in your comment and that is the fact that a lot of science, in particular physics is based on theory not fact. A lot of it has never been proven because it can't yet we take it for fact. So to use this as an argument for no god isn't necessarily a valid one.

 

Here's something Very Interesting.
Ok lets believe i do not belive in God or dont have any religion and i spend my whole life enjoying myself and then when i die, then what if there is a God. Your s*it is going to freeze man. Then you will be Really sorry. So you should belive in a God. Get IT!!!

 

Not if God is the all loving god people claim he is (at least in the religions that I have been taught God is all loving), God would forgive people for not believing in him, otherwise he is not the all loving God.

"But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder." Homer Simpson

 

The reason that atheists are threatened by people believing in God and following organized religion is that the dogma and beliefs associated with religions is causing real harm.

For example: 1) Catholics banning contraceptives on moral grounds in spite of a horrific AIDS epidemic in Africa (contributing to suffering of millions of people) 2) George W Bush and Republican Party denying federal funding to stem cell research for new cell lines on moral grounds, a technology that has the potential to save many lives and reduce the suffering of millions.

With the huge challenges facing humanity today, the stakes are just too high for people to not form their beliefs independently on the basis of sound empirical evidence.

I challenge everyone to question the beliefs that are held for emotional reasons or related to their upbringing or society. Seek the truth in everything you do and believe. Think about why you believe what you do and think about the standard of evidence required to justify your beliefs. I think that this would make the world a better place.

 

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error" [Al-Qur’an 2:256]

 

I just wonder whos worship do dogs,cows, or any other animal do and ofcourse plants too...after all they are also 'living creatures'

 

All that means is that we should not believe in these parts of physics or in the existence of God.

Anyway, I fail to see why the existence of God should make a difference in how I lead my life. I lead my own life lead by my own principles, morals and free will (or at least the illusion of it). If God doesn't like what I do, he/she/it should have created me differently.

 

If you don't want to believe in physics don't, but why are those things taken as truth above other things that can not be proven?

(and for the record I'm not posting on behalf of those who believe in God because I don't, I just chose to not use "it can't be proven he is real" as my reasons)

 

This is my thiery of how the world was created.

I'm Wiccan i believe in a god and a goddess but my god and goddess are like balls of energy to me. So energy has always been there. This is where the big bang comes in. The energy exploded creating all this planets ect and over millions of years Bactria was simple and then grew more advanced turning into worms ect. Well now you know the rest of the story.

Oh and the bible. Maybe it was 2 people. Decided it would be a laugh to write the bible. Maybe the Moses parting of the water. Was that really one of "gods miracles" or was it Wicca?

 

Well God would think of forgiving you if you did believe in him even in the form of a wrong religion. But if dont believe in him TOTALLY, then OH BOY he's going to be more angry than you can imagine.

 

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"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Pretty cut and dry. If you weren't born into christianity or any faith that believes in God and the ten commandments then you're going to hell.

Sorry folks that were born in Africa, God made an oopsy when he was planning this whole thing.

 

Organized religions and literal interpetations of relegious references are bad. Have an open mind and think about what is being said. God created Adam and Eve...okay, but who says we were the first design? I believe that the bible, or any religious book, is falliable. They were written by man. Man is falliable. I can't speak about the Quran (don't know much about it's history and I won't pretend I do) But the Bible (especially the King James version) was created and compiled by a committe. They decided what was said for the sole purpose of social control. The book was translated, what, 4-5 times from different languages. One man's interpetation of a passage is different from another. I do believe that the bible as a whole is a good guide book on how to live with one another.

To answer the question "Prove that there is a God." Can you disprove it? The inability to prove something is not a guarantee that it doesn't exist. Can you prove that we are totally alone in the universe. Can you prove, with a doubt, that there are no aliens? Can you prove, with a doubt, that there are no vampires, werewolves or any other mythical beast?

Believe what you want or not, just don't go around making fun of people who believe in something different than you. Except Scientologists.....they're free game