I admit, I do "occasionally" gain pleasure from death [vid]

Gtech, our government talks all the time about Internet regulation, and you still didn't mention anything about the Bush wiretapping fiasco. No insurgent can come into this country and suspend the Constitution, but if a Nuclear bomb goes off in Chicago tomorrow, Bush has the power to do it. Yeah, Chavez may be shutting up news sources that criticize him, which is wrong, but our government is no angel either. After all, what is this whole "net neutrality" thing about. A ruse for the government/corporations to regulate the net.

Government is the most dangerous threat you could ever face. In the 20th century, hundreds of millions died because of government. Governments throughout history have always used the fear of a foreign threat to suit their own agendas.

Regardless, laughing at someone else's death is immature and sadistic..

 

I talk about Mexican food all the time. That doesn't mean I'm going to open a Mexican food restaurant.

You are correct, I have not talked recently about the legal wire tapping. It was a topic of much discussion on the forum when it first happened. In essence, the NYT willfully disclosed a secret legal classified program that had Congressional oversight, despite pleas from Bush not to do so. This disclosure was an act of treason by the NYT.

Approximately six months later, we learned that Bill Keller regretted doing such:

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/10/22/nytimes-editor-now-admits-we-were-wrong-to-blab/

Basically, it was out of spite/revenge to get at Bush.

Since I'm not a terrorist, nor do I communicate with terrorists overseas, I'm not concerned about a "once secret" legal program that had Congressional oversight in the fight against terrorism.

Now you know why I didn't comment on such. I do not communicate with terrorists.

Every POTUS has powers. I do not know for sure if they have this power, or not, but it's a hypothetical. Am I correct in observing that you are less concerned with a nuclear bomb going off in Chicago (thank God we have Jose Padilla behind bars, eh?) and more concerned over the assumption you believe Bush may use authority he already supposedly has? This is sort of conspiratorial, isn't it?

Moral equivalence for Chavez? Real freedoms are lost and you are complaining about something that isn't even lost? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality

I disagree. I've worked for the government. I've worked as a private citizen. I've never observed men in black suits and a black car following me. I've never been threatened by the government. Sorry, I just don't subscribe to all that alex jones lunacy about how bad the government is. Do I think the government is perfect? Hell no. Do I approve of everything they do? HELL NO! Do I believe they are coming to take me away in a rubber suit? Heh! NO!

There are plenty of things to be fixed or improve upon, without making up things and introducing hypotheticals to create fear of the big bad gobmint.

 

Too bad...

 

Fortunately, I'm an evil hate monger so I found the original link.

Enjoy!

 

Akkk... Most likely they wouldn't be able to find his every blown up bits...

 

I won't watch it. With John Dunne, and though I wrestle with my own anger, in my heart of hearts, I get no pleasure from any man's death, though I may know of its necessity, in this world; and though I am glad he blew himself and no one else up. I am glad for the lives saved, not the life lost.

 

While i do not gain pleasure watching this person blow himself up, i don't feel disgusted nor bad or sad.

 

Thanks...I was disappointed when I didn't see it on youtube...why not go change your original post as well...

As far as the discussion, its so nice to see people like tesla and AGS reaming out their govts while never saying a bad word about their buds who kill thousands of innocents!!! I guess to them islamic law will be their "freedoms".

 

Won't let me edit that post...

 

I'd be genuinely interested in finding out which of you guys first started using the term "your buds" when speaking to your perceived opponents here. While it's moderately humorous, there are several of you that use it. That means that, while the originator was creative, the rest of you have simply stolen it and continue to regurgitate it.

If I had to guess, the originator was likely GTech. If that is the case D16, find a new expression! Regurgitation is the worst form of overzealousness known to man.

 

It was GTech lol. ©P&R Crazy Gang.

 

Crazy Nixon(PBUH) Gang Mate...Show some respect..

 

The "legal" wiretapping? Whats so legal about it, its a violation of the 4th Amendment! Come on, that wasn't just a ruse to attack Bush. Bush authorized it, and knew it was going on. Do you really think the NSA can spy on Americans and the president not know about it. I've seen Bush on TV defending it, so he obviously did support it? Also, Clinton did the same thing during the 90s with Echelon. The government has been spying on us for a long time.

As far as net neutrality goes, if the government is talking about it, like immigration, you can bet they want to get rid of net neutrality. The Internet is the bane of government and corporate control freaks.

Hey Gtech, if the government declared martial law tomorrow, would you, zman, and the other people who enjoy this video take up arms and fight, or would you bow down and submit? If you fight the government, you would be classified as a terrorists, but according to the Constitution and founding fathers, you would be a patriot. Which side would you be on?

The guy in the video is a freedom fighter. Our troops are in his country, and he was fighting back, what any sane and non-weakling man would do.........

One more thing. The man who values peace and freedom is the most dangerous man, because he will give his life to defend. Those of you who enjoy this video are weak, and would be the first to bow down if your own government turned against you. You enjoy violence, and you foolishly think force and war can be used to make people submit.

I believe in carrying guns, and I will probably buy one soon, but I don't enjoy violence, and I hate war. Pulling out a gun and shooting someone for me would be the absolute last resort. War should be used only in defense, not to assert yourself against someone else...

 

You really hate the wire tapping thing, huh?

 

That could be a iraqi US hired soldier shooting at the real terrorists, you dont know that.
Enjoying seeing people die, its sick, real sick.

 

The reason I bring up wire tapping is because people like Gtech, zman, and others are quick to point the finger at some "terrorists" thousands of miles away shooting at our troops who invaded his country, but are too blind to see that our own government is tyrannical.

When your own government spies on you, in violation of its own laws, this shows that you are officially living in a tyranny. America is not a free country, and slowly, like a python, our government is constricting our own freedoms, while they have us thinking we're "fighting for freedom" in Iraq.

Now Iraq is in a civil war. This is what our government "really" wanted. Only a naive fool who watches fox news thinks we're in Iraq to bring democracy. Since when in history has any country ever invaded another to bring "democracy."

The Iraq invasion and occupation is about two things: Oil, and taking control of the Middle East so the globalists(who control the American government) can make the Middle East a part of the New World Order.

Anyone who understand Chess or Geopolitics knows that by taking control of the Middle East, the U.S. has a chance against the combined forces of Russia and China, who have formed an alliance with the Central Asia countries, in response to the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan.

By taking control of Middle Eastern oil, the U.S. can force nations around the world to pay for petroleum in dollars. This is important because the dollar is being devalued, and since our government is seriously in debt, the dollar will collapse if it loses its role as the world's reserve currency.

The people who enjoy this video are too blind to see the big picture. They are too blind to see that this is a global game of chess, that powerful secret societies and institutions have created a plan for a one world government, and even George Herbert Walker Bush gave a speech on September 11, 1991 where he used the term world New World Order.

Gtech continues to make excuses for Bush, no matter how obvious it is that he is a corrupt president. Gtech will point the finger at Chavez, Saddam, and every other president in the world, without taking a critical look at his own president. He believes Bush is an angel, when this couldn't be further from the truth.

 

I'm still amazed that many Americans have not picked up on that.

Most of them do not even know where Iraq is other than it is "overseas."

As if the American administration cares about the Iraqi people, it's a load of absolute bollocks. That is what it is.

 

Yeah, the U.S. government insults my intelligence by telling me they are in Iraq to "bring democracy." It shows how stupid they think we are, but since only one in four Americans read(see the new thread I started today) it doesn't surprise me.

I would respect Bush more if he just got on TV and admitted that we are in Iraq to take the oil and make the country a part of a global empire. You see, groups like the Vikings, Huns, Mongols were more honest thousands of years ago.

When they showed up in your country for an invasion, you pretty much knew that if you were a male you would either be killed or enslaved, and your women would be raped and made into slaves. The Vikings, Huns, and Mongols were up front about it. When they showed up, you had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen next. And you knew that it had nothing to do with freedom and democracy.

Can you imagine a Viking or Hun showing up for an invasion and saying "hey, we are here to bring you democracy and freedom!" And when you take out your sword and started fighting back, the Vikings accused you of being a terrorist. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine if Napoleon had invaded Italy or Russia, and he tried to tell the French that "he did it to bring Russia and Italy Democracy and freedom!" The French would probably have been insulted. But then again, unlike Americans today, the French were smart enough to know that Napoleon was a conquerer, and wanted to make France the most powerful country in Europe. Napoleon didn't have to lie to them, because everyone understood what was happening. Napoleon actually treated the French with more respect than Bush shows us today.

Now, the paragraph above is pretty ridiculous, but it shows the twilight zone Americans live in today. Americans are so stupid that their government can tell them that they invaded a foreign country to bring freedom, when no where in history has such an event ever happened. No country has ever invaded another to bring them "freedom."


Anyone who thinks any country ever invaded another to bring them freedom is a complete moron........and probably didn't do so well in history class when they were in school.

 

I couldn't agree with you more.

Just over four years ago America could not give an absolute flying fuck about Iraqi people, yet all of a sudden the President, along with all the other corrupt scumbags in his administration are saying that they care about the Iraqi's freedom.

It's the biggest joke ever and many dumbed down Americans actually believe the BS.

When will the American people ever wake up to this??

 

That's pretty funny.

The term terrorist is mis-used around here all of the time. I'm sure you could find Iraqis and Afghans who would say that Bush is a terrorist. It's all about perspective.

The Americans who fought and forced the British to relinquish control of America were traitors and insurgents. The same people who fought and died for American sovereignty and freedom from foreign rule/taxation.

Ironic that so many years later, we're the ones with an imperial agenda and infringing on the sovereignty of other nations, fighting in Iraq, hoping to subsidize our military costs with oil as a spoil of war. And when those Iraqis fight for their sovereignty and natural resources, we call them terrorists and insurgents.

History repeating itself, with us forgetting our past.

I've posted this before, and I will mention it again.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/02/b45bd6e1-09e7-444b-bc94-a063908a10e1.html