Hundreds of articles but no sales ...

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  1. GrantDraper

    GrantDraper Active Member

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    #41
    In general it is a numbers game. If you have hundreds online and are not getting the sales then you need to adapt your keywords or your content.

    Premium content will attract premium conversion rates.
     
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  2. john7334

    john7334 Peon

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    #42
    Yeah, that's what I kind of thought. Previous to doing this kind of marketing, I did mass mailing for mortgage refinancing. The letters were targeted well to people coming near an adjustment in their adjustable rate mortgages. As long as I sent out so many letters a week, I was pretty much guaranteed a return on investment of at least 4 to 1.

    I look at this kind of marketing the same way. But there are more variables involved such as possibly giving away too much information in an article, a landing page that doesn't convert, and so on.

    I have a feeling once you figure out a game plan that works for you, making money becomes fairly easy and not so hard to scale. The hard part is finally figuring out a game plan that works consistently.
     
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  3. candy_lim01

    candy_lim01 Peon

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    #43
    Guys,

    I need opinions again. I read there's trick to improve CTR - that is to keep your Resource Box long. You basically "Sell" yourself/ products at Resource box with 2-3 links there.

    So is it a good way? Or there's better ways to make ppl click the links? I used to think we have to keep it short.

    Thanks
     
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  4. Michelle.

    Michelle. Peon

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    #44
    3 links is way too much. You're giving the reader too many options to choose from. Go for one link.
     
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  5. alexa_s

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    #45
    It's not about the length of the resource-box, Candy. It's about how easily and smoothly the text of the article flows into the resource-box so that its readers naturally follow it there and then click on the link.

    I've never used more than one link in the resource-box. No point giving people a choice. There must be one thing that you want them to do, so make them do it.

    If you finish your articles off on a "conclusion note" and then start the resource-box off with something different like "Fred Bloggs qualified as a whatever-it-is in 1984 and now does such-and-such and his blog is here "click this" ..." or whatever, you'll probably lose almost all the readers, and deservedly so.

    ("Click here" is about the worst anchor-text you can have, by the way).
     
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  6. john7334

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    #46
    Wouldn't it be nice to have another backlink for your website, though?

    Do you build backlinks for articles on directories like EZA?

    Also, if you don't mind, how do you primarily build backlinks for your sites?
     
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  7. alexa_s

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    #47
    Not for me, it wouldn't. Not at the cost of giving readers who are going to click a choice of things to click on. Backlinks are ten-a-penny. A reader who found my article, read it all the way through, and is interested enough to click on the link is a potential buyer, right now, this minute, and that's worth far more to me than an extra backlink for some other website of mine! :eek:

    Yes, sometimes.

    I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you! :eek:

    Sorry, John, but I don't really discuss the details of what I'm currently doing. I do appreciate that this will sound unfriendly/unhelpful, and I apologise for that, which isn't my intention at all. I only really post if it's a factual question, or if I think I can offer generalisations that will help people, (or sometimes to correct gross misinformation). Please excuse me. :eek:
     
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    #48
    Thanks for the response, Alexa. All this stuff, you have to figure out yourself, which makes it that much more satisfying when you finally do, I reckon.
     
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  9. Michelle.

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    #49
    Petehols, DP member, promotes products via article marketing, he currently builds backlinks through social bookmarking, blogs, forums and other article directories. He is making $6000 a month so it is worth taking tips from him. He posts his main article on other directories and gives the reader a choice of his website and a link to the main article. It took me a few hours to read his thread but it was worthwhile. There's a lot of info that you would find useful there.
     
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  10. john7334

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    Thanks, Michelle. I have read through that thread which is fairly interesting. Everything I read I try to take with a grain of salt, though. The best teacher is experience.
     
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  11. Michelle.

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    #51
    Indeed, it's only because I'm relatively new that I'm trying to get ideas from other people. I feel like I know enough now to get started. I should have everything up and ready to go in a few days. And ofcourse then I will be on my own, it will be a steep learning curve as I figure out what works best but I guess it is always good to learn from other peoples mistakes so you don't end up making them and save time in the process.
     
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  12. john7334

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    #52
    I'm in the same boat as you. For right now, I have broken down things to complete basics and will work up from that point. The best information I have read on the whole Internet in regard to internet marketing has come from reading Grizzy Brears "Make Money For Beginners" website. I wish I had found that site on day one of starting this nonsense.

    My whole deal now is learning how to consistently get search engine traffic. It may take longer than monkeying with Twitter, Stumble Upon, or building a list of people to peddle garbage products to, but I think it will be the best way for me to make good money in the long run.

    This Grizzly guy has no products to sell, so I don't worry about ulterior motives. Plus, he ranks consistently for the words "make money" on the first page of Google with a Blogger blog. That's a guy to listen to, I think.
     
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  13. candy_lim01

    candy_lim01 Peon

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    #53
    Wow! Lots and lots of info ! Thanks for all the info.

    @alexa_s When you say the link should go with the flow, you mean we don't conclude our articles basically? We want the readers to click our link to continue reading? So for example: do you think if I put "Continue reading" under my resource box, will it help? Those interested will click "Continue reading" which will bring them to my blog.

    Another question. How do you basically find which keywords to use? Someone told me to try on PPC first to see which keyword converts. Then use that keyword for the articles. Any easier and free way?

    Thanks!
     
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  14. john7334

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    #54
    I'd like to find out where quality backlinks are "ten-a-penny." That's what I want to know. Come on, Alexa, cough up that wisdom. Is that another one you have to get all murderous about?
     
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  15. alexa_s

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    #55
    An excellent service called "Angela's Backlinks", which you can find here, starts at $5 per month, which doesn't exactly break anyone's bank, I think? ;)

    (I'm not an affiliate or otherwise connected with it.)

    Ok, "ten-a-penny" was a slight exaggeration. :eek:
     
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  16. john7334

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    #56
    I tried those for a while. They worked pretty well. I did get one threatening email from the owner of a site asking me in no uncertain terms to quit spamming his site. He said he was reporting my site to Google and would prosecute in the future. That was my last day doing that.

    I don't know, I kind of felt bad about throwing up all kinds of useless links for that guy's site. So, I stopped doing it. I knew I wasn't adding any value to his site and I also knew I wouldn't have appreciated it if I were in his shoes. Plus, the owners of the sites where you have posted all kinds of worthless links can be taken down just as quickly as they put up. Maybe that's why they are so cheap.

    Maybe that kind of linking is something you have to be willing to throw ethics out the door to some extent. I don't know if I have reached that point.
     
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  17. alexa_s

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    #57
    They do say that, occasionally; yes. :eek:

    Show me a non-intensive way of doing backlinks without the occasional problem like that, though. :rolleyes:

    If you put enough work in, making suitable, appropriate, value-adding comments on blogs and sites with high PR, you can possibly achieve the same outcome without annoying anyone, but it would be a full-time job, I think. Personally, I outsource it. There are all sorts of people in other countries who do such jobs well and reliably and at very low prices.

    I hear you. :confused:
     
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  18. sciencegto

    sciencegto Well-Known Member

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    #58
    Hundreds?:confused: You should become article writer on content creation, maybe you don't had any luck with CB:p
     
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    #59
    Alexa: How much do you pay? per packs or per hour?
     
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  20. sciencegto

    sciencegto Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Report to Google? Just ignore that guys, if it really true then lots of viagra site using forum profile will not get into first page for keyword "buy viagra".:D
     
    sciencegto, Sep 17, 2009 IP