Selling Huge Paintball Forum/Video/Arcade Site - Established

I currently own way too many sites and have not spent any time trying to market this one. PbVids is one of the oldest and largest paintball forums on the net.

It one had over 100K uniques a month and earned over 5K per month in ads, donations, etc. Over the years the site has been sold several times and the traffic and revenue has gone down considerbly. I purchased this site over two years ago and spent considerable time and money revamping it, getting new mods, re-coding, and adding a true video front end. The site has joomla front end and a VB backend with the same template throughout. What I have not spent any time on was marketing. For me 50 - 100 a month was a fair return on my investment.

Currently the site has a loyal following and active mods.

The site currently makes between $50 - $100 per month with no effort. This is from l banner advertisers, textLink Ads Inc, and Adsense.

This site has hundreds of ways to make money. You could easly add products to the online store or rent/redirect the store link out to another online shop.

I wont shine you on here. In order to make big bucks with this site you need to be an active owner! You will need to actively market banners ads, links, etc. The good news is that the site is huge so selling banners is not that difficult. You also do not need to be a pballer to own/run the site.


Here are the current stats for the forum....
www.PbVids.com Statistics
Threads: 26,106,
Posts: 368,038,
Members: 16,251

Current Unique visitors per month is around 6K. It was 30K when purchased two years ago. Before that 180K.

There are several competitor sites such as pbnation.com that make huge $$$

All licenses come with the site and will be transfered over to the new owner. If any license can't be transfered I will refund the cost of the license so that it can be purchased by the new owner.

Licenses include

VBulletin
VBadadvance
Arcade with 1000+ Flash Games
Joomla
Domain www.Pbvids.com
Domain www.Pbvids.net (Second site for development )

Minimum sale price is $5,400...I bought this site for $6500 two years ago. Im not here to bargain with anyone or debate site value. If it does not sell I will simply keep it and continue to collect the revenue.

Escrow.com will be used for the trasfer.

Bottom line - I have no time for this site - So buy it while you have a chance.

Ed

 

Might wanna get it back to what it was before. That is 60x its revenue per month. You cannot sell a site for that because it was big years ago. Its worth what it is now, not before.

 

As I said - not here to debate value of the site. Anyone arguing XXX revenue has no clue about actual value. Dont get me wrong - I use to value sites he same way. Then bought several and discoverd its all BS. The XXX can vaporize over night if the site has no staying power. This is a real site tht follows a sport that is growing every day. Its not like all the BS sites sold every day on digital point. Ninety percent of the sites sold here have zero staying power and once bought the revenue vaporizes. This is a real site - that once had a ton of traffic/revenue - that needs a turn around owner.

 

Display "Currently Active Members" online please.

Thanks,

 

The forum is literally dead, the most recent post was on the 17th, today is the 22nd. There hasn't been one post for 5 days, the forum is dead and not worth anything close to $6k. Good luck.

 

I agree its dead, even the mods are saying it's dead, and you can clearly see that it's not active, can you even show us proof of your ad sales,

You can spend as much as you want, etc. but that doesn't matter, what matters is what the site is worth at the moment and how much someone is willing to pay. also how can you say that "$50 - $100.00" is a fair return on your investment if you spent all of that money.

I call B.S. good luck with selling your dead forum!

 

Looks indeed dead. Please provide proof of your statements.

 

The stats posted are accurate! I am not claiming the site is the #1 pb site. Just the opposite! I have stated several times that this site has gone down over the years and needs a owner who can turn it around. If all you envision is a forum site you have a narrow focus!

At 60.00 a month revenue this site would return over 10% - month after month on a 6k investment. As I said before this is a real site - unlike all the other BS sold here on DP.

 

Who taught you math? That would be a 1% ROI, month over month. Nobody here is going to be impressed by that, especially considering that a portion (or even maybe all) of that income will be eaten by hosting, management, and other expenses.

 

Sorry - not clear - site currently returns 10% on initial investment.
LOL - Hosting is less than a dollar a month with no other overhead except renewing domain every year.

 

I am interested in this site, but not at your asking price. Here are my issues:

1. You act like a 10% return on the site is a good deal. I can buy a publicly traded stock and get that return while I do absolutely nothing, or I can pick from dozens of websites listed here that would return 100% over the course of a year with minimal work.

2. You claim that with some work, the new buyer can make the site into something special, and then value the site based on the revenue that could come in after that work is done. You can't value the site based on a bunch of work that the new owner must do to meet your projected revenue and expect to have buyers take you seriously.

3. Your claim that all websites are risky investments makes your site worth less, not more. I don't understand how a site that used to have revenue and is now basically dead is exempt from your rule, just because you happen to own it. If anything, this website is proof that people should be careful investing their money in websites, because you paid way more than than the site is now worth.

Again, I would like to buy this site. If you decide to sell it for a price that is in line with with valuation of all the other sites that sell here, let me know. Otherwise, good luck.

 

LOl - show me a stock that has not lost 10% or 50% in the last two year. The stock market rarely returns 10%...at least not the stocks I have owned. If are making 100% return on sites - contratulations!

 

There are a number of stocks that pay dividends near 10% a year, and I can show you plenty of stocks that have not lost 10% in the last year, let alone 50%. Maybe there are fewer stocks with a high yield now than in the recent past, but they are still out there. The stock market in the U.S. has a historical return of 8%, not including dividends.

Just take a look around at the other sites for sale here, and you'll see that almost every single one of them has a higher return than your site, and the vast majority require less work to maintain. That means that your site is overpriced, but given that you are now debating stock market returns instead of the value of your site, I think you know that already.

 

If you mean a 10% per YEAR ROI than that is really crap for a website, and doesn't even justify the time needed to invest in keeping the site running. And, by saying you pay one dollar a month for hosting, what you're really telling me is that there is so little activity on the forum that having a good hosting for it doesn't matter. A normal forum with 16k members and 370k posts I wouldn't run on anything less than a solid VPS. I think you're just going to have to come to terms with the fact that you bought a lemon and the majority of your "investment" is going to be a loss.

 

If I were to even thinking about investing 6k I would spend it on everything that i need after the fact that i purchased the forum.

Heck, in this case any of us can take a brand new vb owned license, or any forum on DP and invest 6k into it and still kick this forums butt!

Get real dude!




The stats posted are accurate! I am not claiming the site is the #1 pb site. Just the opposite! I have stated several times that this site has gone down over the years and needs a owner who can turn it around. If all you envision is a forum site you have a narrow focus!

At 60.00 a month revenue this site would return over 10% - month after month on a 6k investment. As I said before this is a real site - unlike all the other BS sold here on DP.

 

hahahaha, this is really funny, a dead forum, with 1million alexa ranks in 6000 USD, lol

 

If you are not interested in bidding please keep your opinions to yourself.

 

Could you send me the lowest amount you would be willing to take? I do understand the site for some reason has just stopped.
As a buyer I would have to investigate what happened and see if it can be returned to a good website. The site is nice but not sure about the price.
Let me know via PM if we can work something out. Possibly up front money and money based on advertising revenues?
Thanks.

 

when this site was previously listed for sale the stats were:

29,000 Users - 512,000+ Posts

how has the site shrank in 3 years?

Threads: 25,462, Posts: 366,968, Members: 16,259

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