How?

Hello you all... well since i dont want to make u lose ur time im going directly to the question:

I want to have maaaany friends in myspace. But the thing is well... 150/day isnt obviously enough. And i see people with 25 thousand ... 80'000 ... of them. HOW? and yes i joined/created some of those trains...

Any tip?

 

Although I don't have a MySpace, from what I've read posting a picture of an extremely attractive girl is the most effective way to gain friends.

 

oh... oki.

thanks for the tip .

 

150/day isn't enough? Why not?

150 * 20 days = 3000 friends.

Now, if you have an interesting or sexy picture other people will automatically add you to their friend list when they see your pic on other people's friends list.

So you have 3000 friends, other people look at their myspace homepage and ADD YOU because they saw your interesting/sexy pic... get it?

Those 3000 friends just helped you get another 3000... for nothing. This effect will just keep spreading and getting bigger. I think being able to send messages to 3000+ people should be good enough to help you launch just about any site/product.

my2c.
Pete

PS: I also think a hot chick pic will help big-time.

 

hummm right ... i just want to speed things up . and it is working better now. i get a friend request every +/-1 mins ... which is 60 per hour. muuuch better now .

thank u all for the help .

 

Can't see the benefit of this Myspace thingy. I tried it and it looked and felt too cheap. I dunno. I'll just stick to what I know works for me.

I used to use ICQ and had over conversations with over 200 people every day all over the world. However, I never made a cent from it.

Now I spend a few hours a day on DP and make pretty good money!

 

nooo ... friend trains . i dont use anything else.. and from now i am getting an average +1/minute. which is quite good.

 

Do you mind sharing some of your experiences? I'm also interested in building up a bit of a friends list (maybe up to 5k or so) for a marketing experiment...

 

Build a real profile, offer something people will care about, and do it legitimately. Avoid all these trains and other garbage. That's not marketing, it's spam. Do you really think those 80,000+ visitors care what your bulletins say? Heck no. Most of them are probably also the traditional "myspace whores" who have so many friends they'll never see your bulletins in the few seconds they'd have on that top 5 bulletin list anyway. And to make it worse, these people aren't targeted traffic at all. They're just a bunch of random kids for the most part; and a bunch of kids who really don't care about your site, your products, or your services. Spend your time doing something worthwhile. Do something newsworthy and pitch a story to the press. Buy some targeted advertising. Run a good contest. Any kind of marketing is better than this kind of thing. So start thinking like a professional and your site will get treated more professionally in return. If you have to spam people through myspace to get visitors, then your site's obviously not really worth visiting. Try changing that and you'll get some recognition where it counts and with people who actually care.

Jenn

 

Oki Jen .... ill do that. Actually agree with u in many points .

Thanks for helping!

 

No offence Jen, but nobody really asked what kind of sites/products/services to offer... or why they should/shouldn't try to take advantage of myspace or any other traffic exchange/spammy crap site...

I'm well aware of the fact that myspace is crap. Most people are. But the fact remains that there are a lot of sites/services that are well suited to the kind of "general" traffic that myspace can help create... and if there is a chance, even a small one, for me or anyone else to capitalize on it then I'm willing to give it a shot.

I'm not too keen on the way your post attacked the ideas of the people in this thread, I'm sure it wasn't intentional...

Yes, building a quality service/product for a group of people that need it is the best way (generally) to go about things... but don't under-estimate the "garbage" traffic/niches/ideas. I've made tens of thousands of dollars by taking advantage of "bad ideas" while the timing was good.


P.

 

And I'm a real marketing professional who is simply giving quality advice that most people pay hundreds of dollars to listen to while I'm on this forum, ranging from PR critiques to marketing tactic suggestions. And I've made a lot more than tens of thousands of dollars doing what I do, so it's not like I pull it out of thin air. Myspace isn't efficient in any way shape or form, nor is any kind of spam. And spam is essentially what it is, no matter how you look at it. And as a professional, I'll never condone it. I'm sorry you felt offended by my post, but when someone offers advice you're certainly not obligated to take it. I was responding to the original poster, and they obviously didn't have a problem.

Jenn

 

No arguments there. I agree with what you said the first time also, I just don't think discouraging others' valid ideas is the way to go.

As for cash made by quality services vs. myspace/digg/etc. marketing... I'll take either. As you no doubt know, people want a quick buck... hence the myspace promotions.

anyway, good points, and if anyone has any good myspace strategies, please share.

cheers.
Pete

 

The problem is that, as a marketing professional, I can't concede that spamming random users added with not always "appropriate" methods is a valid idea. I definitely wasn't trying to pick a fight. But I'm always going to offer professional advice valid for the long-term rather than focusing on a "quick buck". There are enough people here already sharing their thoughts on that matter, and I simply choose to provide a different perspective.

Jenn

 

I agree.

Your advice was good advice, and like you I certainly don't want to pick fights with people that help me (ie. forum members) I guess I just read your first post the wrong way and got the wrong vibe... in any case, I hope I didn't offend you or anything.

 

Nope. We're all good.

 

hehe . thank u all for sharing your opinion

just one thing - "quick bucks" are good. as long as you have the notion that they are quick... and that they wont come for long. i mean look that British guy that made a cool million with his pixel website ... i consider that "quick bucks" ... yet GOOOD BUCKS! . or am i wrong?

i just have not found a way to make any yet... but i wil... oh yes i will.

thanks again

 

Post some pic of a sexy little girl.
Then every damn pervert on myspace will be your friend!

LOL

See myspace is making some changes to prevent over 18 people from getting the full profiles of those under 18.
Of course they also say there is no way for them to know if someone over 18 is lying about their age to get into the little kiddies profiles, etc.
Meaning, the perverts will just add an extra lie.

 

Hmmmm, I also got that vibe.....maybe it's just me though. Thank you Jenn, I am glad you found time in your career to come on DP and give us some free professional advice.

I believe all people who spam do so conciously, they understand perfectly that spamming is a questionable strategy. But the ROI often outweighs the ethical costs. Now lets take a step back and think about spamming outside of the internet context. Would heavily flyering an area before an event, passing out leaflets in hallways or consistently showing a TV ad be considered spamming on some levels? Absolutely. Many consumers don't want to see these ads, but they have no choice. The only difference lies in the delivery and the media channels and an ability to reach a wider audience with a message through interent spam. It's really nothing new, it's old advertising taken to a new level, once the technology evolved enough. TWhether professionals condone it or not it will exist evolve and propogate. And what's interesting the methods of defense against spam have been rapidly evolving as well. What's even more interesting is that we have created spam prevention systems. Something that is virutally impossible with physical spam such as fliers or TV or radio ads because you can't switch the channel or look away until you see or hear it. TiVo and Moxi could be considered exceptions.

Now
"Do something newsworthy and pitch a story to the press. Buy some targeted advertising. Run a good contest. Any kind of marketing is better than this kind of thing. So start thinking like a professional and your site will get treated more professionally in return. If you have to spam people through myspace to get visitors, then your site's obviously not really worth visiting. Try changing that and you'll get some recognition where it counts and with people who actually care. "

To reply to the quote above.

First, many people here are entrepreneurs with limited funds. Buying targeted advertising or running large contests are not options in their case.

Second, I don't really understand what you mean by "thinking like a professional." Does it mean that you have to think like you have a marketing department and a $500,000 budget for every project? I mean aren't marketing professional supposed to be creative? Targeted ads and press releases sound like the oldest tricks in the book to me and I'm yet to see other suggestions.

Third, if you're promoting through myspace it doens't mean your website is not worth seeing. This statement has no solid support. Many small start up sites get their initial flow from Myspace and then take off on their own.

Finally, Myspace makes it very easy to promote to specific niches because people sort themselves out through groups, age, geographics, demographics and other means and categories. We're talking about MARKETING PROFESSIONAL'S HEAVEN because all your homework has been already done for you.

You seem very adamant about your position, but I don't see much solid factual support for your statements. I do respect your concern with the ethical side of the issue. However, even this side is questionable and is a matter of debate, which is what I am trying to do here.

I am very interested to see exactly why and how from a professional point of view, promotion through myspace is bad and should be avoided.