How valuable is .tv compared to .com, in SE

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by tauripiir, Apr 28, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have found searched (in inventory.overture.com) good keywords for my domain, and i found, it has over 500 000 hits in one/month, this keyword is (xxxx xxxx) http://xxxx-xxxx.com is already taken and available is http://xxxx-xxxx.tv,

    my question is, does google really prefers .com instead of .tv (better listing position)?
     
    tauripiir, Apr 28, 2007 IP
  2. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

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    not if the .tv domain was optimized a lot better and had more backlinks..
     
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  3. tauripiir

    tauripiir Peon

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    but are the .com and .tv even in default. how good is 500 000 searches keyword? bad/normal/good/very-good/super
     
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    yiker Peon

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    how many dot whatevers are there.
     
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    CheapPurses Banned

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    #5
    Do you see .tv web sites on top of listings on search engines such as Google, MSN or Yahoo?

    It should answer your question.

    .COM is king in the SE world :)
     
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  6. htmlindex

    htmlindex Prominent Member

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    It doesn't make a difference. I've seen many different extentions come up on the 1st page of Google. As to the value, having hyphens in .tv domains really kills the value of it, I'd suggest not having it

    Quite a lot, can't be bothered to count, but you can if you wish. If I miss any, you can add it to the list

    com, net, org, info, biz, us, mobi, pro, aero, coop, gov, edu, mil (not sure if it's still around)

    Here are all the ccTLDs:

    .ac – Ascension Island
    .ad – Andorra
    .ae – United Arab Emirates
    .af – Afghanistan
    .ag – Antigua and Barbuda
    .ai – Anguilla
    .al – Albania
    .am – Armenia
    .an – Netherlands Antilles
    .ao – Angola
    .aq – Antarctica
    .ar – Argentina
    .as – American Samoa
    .at – Austria
    .au – Australia
    .aw – Aruba
    .az – Azerbaijan
    .ax – Aland Islands
    .ba – Bosnia and Herzegovina
    .bb – Barbados
    .bd – Bangladesh
    .be – Belgium
    .bf – Burkina Faso
    .bg – Bulgaria
    .bh – Bahrain
    .bi – Burundi
    .bj – Benin
    .bm – Bermuda
    .bn – Brunei Darussalam
    .bo – Bolivia
    .br – Brazil
    .bs – Bahamas
    .bt – Bhutan
    .bv – Bouvet Island
    .bw – Botswana
    .by – Belarus
    .bz – Belize
    .ca – Canada
    .cc – Cocos (Keeling) Islands
    .cd – Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
    .cf – Central African Republic
    .cg – Congo, Republic of
    .ch – Switzerland
    .ci – Cote d'Ivoire
    .ck – Cook Islands
    .cl – Chile
    .cm – Cameroon
    .cn – China
    .co – Colombia
    .cr – Costa Rica
    .cs – Serbia and Montenegro
    .cu – Cuba
    .cv – Cape Verde
    .cx – Christmas Island
    .cy – Cyprus
    .cz – Czech Republic
    .de – Germany
    .dj – Djibouti
    .dk – Denmark
    .dm – Dominica
    .do – Dominican Republic
    .dz – Algeria
    .ec – Ecuador
    .ee – Estonia
    .eg – Egypt
    .eh – Western Sahara
    .er – Eritrea
    .es – Spain
    .et – Ethiopia
    .eu – European Union
    .fi – Finland
    .fj – Fiji
    .fk – Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
    .fm – Micronesia, Federal State of
    .fo – Faroe Islands
    .fr – France
    .ga – Gabon
    .gb – United Kingdom
    .gd – Grenada
    .ge – Georgia
    .gf – French Guiana
    .gg – Guernsey
    .gh – Ghana
    .gi – Gibraltar
    .gl – Greenland
    .gm – Gambia
    .gn – Guinea
    .gp – Guadeloupe
    .gq – Equatorial Guinea
    .gr – Greece
    .gs – South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
    .gt – Guatemala
    .gu – Guam
    .gw – Guinea-Bissau
    .gy – Guyana
    .hk – Hong Kong
    .hm – Heard and McDonald Islands
    .hn – Honduras
    .hr – Croatia/Hrvatska
    .ht – Haiti
    .hu – Hungary
    .id – Indonesia
    .ie – Ireland
    .il – Israel
    .im – Isle of Man
    .in – India
    .io – British Indian Ocean Territory
    .iq – Iraq
    .ir – Iran, Islamic Republic of
    .is – Iceland
    .it – Italy
    .je – Jersey
    .jm – Jamaica
    .jo – Jordan
    .jp – Japan
    .ke – Kenya
    .kg – Kyrgyzstan
    .kh – Cambodia
    .ki – Kiribati
    .km – Comoros
    .kn – Saint Kitts and Nevis
    .kp – Korea, Democratic People's Republic
    .kr – Korea, Republic of
    .kw – Kuwait
    .ky – Cayman Islands
    .kz – Kazakhstan
    .la – Lao People's Democratic Republic
    .lb – Lebanon
    .lc – Saint Lucia
    .li – Liechtenstein
    .lk – Sri Lanka
    .lr – Liberia
    .ls – Lesotho
    .lt – Lithuania
    .lu – Luxembourg
    .lv – Latvia
    .ly – Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
    .ma – Morocco
    .mc – Monaco
    .md – Moldova, Republic of
    .mg – Madagascar
    .mh – Marshall Islands
    .mk – Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of
    .ml – Mali
    .mm – Myanmar
    .mn – Mongolia
    .mo – Macau
    .mp – Northern Mariana Islands
    .mq – Martinique
    .mr – Mauritania
    .ms – Montserrat
    .mt – Malta
    .mu – Mauritius
    .mv – Maldives
    .mw – Malawi
    .mx – Mexico
    .my – Malaysia
    .mz – Mozambique
    .na – Namibia
    .nc – New Caledonia
    .ne – Niger
    .nf – Norfolk Island
    .ng – Nigeria
    .ni – Nicaragua
    .nl – Netherlands
    .no – Norway
    .np – Nepal
    .nr – Nauru
    .nu – Niue
    .nz – New Zealand
    .om – Oman
    .pa – Panama
    .pe – Peru
    .pf – French Polynesia
    .pg – Papua New Guinea
    .ph – Philippines
    .pk – Pakistan
    .pl – Poland
    .pm – Saint Pierre and Miquelon
    .pn – Pitcairn Island
    .pr – Puerto Rico
    .ps – Palestinian Territories
    .pt – Portugal
    .pw – Palau
    .py – Paraguay
    .qa – Qatar
    .re – Reunion Island
    .ro – Romania
    .ru – Russian Federation
    .rw – Rwanda
    .sa – Saudi Arabia
    .sb – Solomon Islands
    .sc – Seychelles
    .sd – Sudan
    .se – Sweden
    .sg – Singapore
    .sh – Saint Helena
    .si – Slovenia
    .sj – Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands
    .sk – Slovak Republic
    .sl – Sierra Leone
    .sm – San Marino
    .sn – Senegal
    .so – Somalia
    .sr – Suriname
    .st – Sao Tome and Principe
    .sv – El Salvador
    .sy – Syrian Arab Republic
    .sz – Swaziland
    .tc – Turks and Caicos Islands
    .td – Chad
    .tf – French Southern Territories
    .tg – Togo
    .th – Thailand
    .tj – Tajikistan
    .tk – Tokelau
    .tl – Timor-Leste
    .tm – Turkmenistan
    .tn – Tunisia
    .to – Tonga
    .tp – East Timor
    .tr – Turkey
    .tt – Trinidad and Tobago
    .tv – Tuvalu
    .tw – Taiwan
    .tz – Tanzania
    .ua – Ukraine
    .ug – Uganda
    .uk – United Kingdom
    .um – United States Minor Outlying Islands
    .us – United States
    .uy – Uruguay
    .uz – Uzbekistan
    .va – Holy See (Vatican City State)
    .vc – Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    .ve – Venezuela
    .vg – Virgin Islands, British
    .vi – Virgin Islands, U.S.
    .vn – Vietnam
    .vu – Vanuatu
    .wf – Wallis and Futuna Islands
    .ws – Western Samoa
    .ye – Yemen
    .yt – Mayotte
    .yu – Yugoslavia
    .za – South Africa
    .zm – Zambia
    .zw – Zimbabwe
     
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  7. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    People want US traffic.

    While both sites threoretically should rank the same if done the same. The .com would get substantially more clicks from US based surfers. I often wonder why people don't take that into account.

    I would always skip over a .tv or .pk or .whateverelse and skip to a lower ranked .com. Am I biased against foriegn domains, yes. Why? Because no serious respectable US based business would operate on a lesser domain extention. There are a couple exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions.

    So, in short, while Google or SE's may treat a .tv and .com the same . . . US surfers do not. Those two domains would not get the same click, if located in the same position.

    This is dependant to a degree on the type of site. A fan site might do okay with a .info, but I would never take a lesser domain seriously for a serious topic such as medical, etc.

    .tv or .anything other than .com or .net immediatly makes me think it is a foriegn owned website. When I see a .info, it means it is spam or owned by someone too cheap to spend $8. Again, nothing I would visit for a serious topic.

    This is my opinion as a us based surfer and based on what I see others doing. Others may think differently.
     
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  8. htmlindex

    htmlindex Prominent Member

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    You do make a valid point. Dot com has & always will be king, & if you have the option of buying a .com or another extention for a business site, .com is always the best option. If the .com is already taken, you'll need to decide if you want to search for a different .com, which will probably be a lot longer, or if you will consider other extentions.

    It really comes down to, what type of site is the OP wanting to start. TV is great if you are starting a video site, but probably not the most suitable extention if you are wanting to start a full on professional business site.

    BTW, congrats on hitting the 1,000 post mark with your above post :)
     
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  9. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    I have to disagree. The average user doesn't even know how to copy and paste, let alone know how to tell which country a domain is from just by looking at it. I'd go as far as to say that an average user would click the first Google result no matter what the title is either - they click just cause Google brought it up first.

    However, I myself would click most anything except for .info. They tend to be MFA websites with no real use :p
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Thanks!

    It really does depend on the type of site.

    I agree somewhat, that many users are not very knowledgable about the different TLD's, but those that are would judge the two sites differently. I think it really depends on the type of site. But, all things being equal, I would take a .com or .net for my business.

    As for .info's, it is clear the .88 cent price made them the #1 TLD for spammers. Some people just see how popular they are and think .info are respected. It is the opposite, very soon .info's will be assumed to be spam - as you and I already do.
     
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  11. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    Yea, I agree that .com is much more respected and easy to remember. I know my mom for one will just type nameofbusiness.com without googleing, or considering the fact that it's .net or .org. .com FTW :)
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    At least your mom can find where to type the address/url. My mom types it into the seach box on her homepage instead of the address bar. That kills me when I see people do that. I give them an exact url and they type it into some damn msn search instead of directly into the address area.
     
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