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how to tell if we've reached our cap?

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by disgust, Nov 23, 2004.

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    is there any way to tell if we've reached a cap on the number-of-pages bit of the algo?

    the reason I'm wondering is this... I could point my weight back at my vbulletin forums archive to get it crawled more deeply, and get more threads indexed, but this would really only make sense to do to increase the ad network weight

    I've noticed that I'm at a pretty even/flat number (54,000), is that a reasonable indication that I'm at a cap?
     
    disgust, Nov 23, 2004 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    A flat/even number is a pretty good indication you are at the current cap for your PageRank.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 23, 2004 IP
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    Mine's 1 point short of a flat number... that possible as well? (80,999)
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #4
    Are you counting your referrals? Or is that your base?
     
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    Just my base.
     
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    #6
    Not sure, I think you are pretty close to your cap at the very least.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 23, 2004 IP
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    Yeah, I would assume that. I guess it will only update if PR updates or my backlinks according to the API updates? Would I have the same cap if I had 1 ad vs. 5, or is the cap only increased as I add ads?

    I.e. Say the cap is 80,999, but when I remove an ad to go to 4, my weight goes down to 74,000 or something... is it possible that I can get upto the cap of 80,999 (if that's the cap) by running only one ad eventually, or no?
     
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    Im capped :rolleyes:

    Have to wait for a PR update when ever if ever it happens again

    Might play with dropping ads to see what happens as I have increased quiet alot since I reached my weight (network weight that is )
     
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    #9
    No, you can't get anywhere close to where you are at by running 1 ad (or 4).
     
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    Ok, so there's a cap based on the number of ads you're running then... oh well.
     
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    I think we are talking about two different things... there is a cap based on number of pages. Whatever weight that gives you is multiplied out for the number of ads you run per page (with a cap of 5 ads allowed). So removing some ads, or removing content would lower the total weight.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 23, 2004 IP
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    Ok, I get that... but say I have 1M page indexed (which I obviously don't), would I be able to hit the same cap I have now with 1 ad, or would it be lower (I am currently running 5 ads)?
     
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    #13
    No... you would always have a lower weight if you run less ads.
     
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    Gotcha. Thanks. :) Are the caps going to be raised over time (i.e. as more sites are in the network) or are they more or less stuck where they are?
     
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    #15
    The caps will be adjusted as necessary. It doesn't have anything to do with how many sites. It's more about the average weight per site. So it could also be adjusted down.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 23, 2004 IP
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    Oh, really? So in general, the cap will remain around the same?
     
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    Yep, that's correct.
     
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    What exactly is the purpose of the cap? I thought as the network grew, the cap would be unneccesary, but maybe I misunderstood. :confused:
     
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    #19
    Currently it's used so sites don't have too much of the total weight. Done through averaging of the other sites and the total weight of the network. For now, it's probably going to stay relatively where it is, but the coop will adapt as needed.
     
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    Right, that's what I thought... and I guess that's why I assumed as the network grows, we wouldn't need the cap, or at least need it to be as low as it is. ;)
     
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