How to successfully add your site to DMOZ

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by infordig, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #21
    Amen to that, Ryan. And Crossman, be thankful that you are blessed with a thick skin (as am I). Many people aren't.
     
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  2. lmocr

    lmocr Peon

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    #22
    I'm curious whether anyone read the thread the "hurt" this guys feelings?

    His feelings must be made of glass, if something as minor that hurt him.
     
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  3. Papoloko

    Papoloko Peon

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    #23
    No, I wasn't hurt or feeling low... I was just very angry at the BS.

    Do you mean that it's a normal expectation that a moderator of a mayor forum will screw up my first post when I was only wishing them a happy new year?... And not even acknowledge my post? The thread wasn't about me wanting my site to be listed or asking them anything about it. At the end of the thread you can see how a moderator, editor motsa, sarcastically apologized and then locked out the thread. If that doesn't smell s**t to you then the world is gone crazy. I thank you for your advise of no to take it personal but it was personal and made me very mad at the time.. Still, I was capable of treating them with respect.

    Look and analyze the RZ thread again and you will see the light. No wonder some editors are afraid of retaliation from pissoff submitters. I want to make it clear that I believe there are many good editors sleeping at peace at night without any reason to worry and I can see some of them here by the way they post.

    I live by the code of treating all people with respect unless they are proven unworthy of, its was like that where I grew up, and I apply that everyday offline and online too. You don't know me and I don't you either but I can tell you this much about me, I have been and did hangout in illegal, very rotten and evil places, with people that will take your underwear from you without taking your pants off, and I survived it all to the point that if you look at my avatar you will see my face, yea my real face, and my website in the signature at the bottom of the post... I guess I have been found, don't I? That should tell you something about me. I have the wisdom and so many experiences of living at different social levels that it would be almost impossible to make feel low. Thanks for your consent.

    You are right about a couple of things, though. I did used the wrong word (low) I should had use "rage" "mad" or "angry". My native language is Spanish, I'm from Cuba, and even though, I have been living in the USA for almost 40 years, sometime the translation in my mind doesn't come out right. The other thing is that in the internet you find many, too many, people that will talk BS but will hide behind the anonymity of net, it's just like those guys driving in the freeway that pull the finger at you but won't stop to face you. The old ladies in my "old hood" did that all the time.

    I always go out of my way trying not to blowup to people stupidity and dumb excuses but sometime, when I'm able to see the true intentions, I just get off on them. I didn't like doing it but I did so in my original post at G Group:
    http://groups.google.com/group/goog...ad/e619c19857e95eb2/f5d2a0bc7b49038f?lnk=raot

    Let me ask you something, did my post backup the original poster or not?

    Is this thread about feeling low?

    Let me know if there is something you want from me.
     
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  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #24
    Background: lmocr likes to hang out at the Resourceless Zone, grooming her contacts for her dreams of advancement. I doubt that anyone would accuse her of having feelings of glass.

    Papaloko, best to ignore such DMOZ and Resourceless Zone apologists - for them to admit that something might actually be wrong with how they operate would be like Donald Trump renouncing his wealth and sailing off to work with lepers.
     
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  5. lmocr

    lmocr Peon

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    #25
    IF I had feelings of glass - I would have shattered into millions and millions of pieces already as a result of your asinine comments. But then I look at the source and laugh instead.

    So what's your excuse for "the way you operate"? :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Papoloko

    Papoloko Peon

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    #26
    minstrel

    I admire all you guys that can debate and write so quick. It take me about 2 hours to write a post like the one I just did. For me making a post is like writing content for my site. By the time I publish my post others posts are already written!

    Regardless of all the talk and problems with DMOZ, I have no beef with the editors in general. There are good ones and there are bad ones just as there are good people and bad people everywhere. That's the way life is all around but my beef was with the RZ forum for the way they treated a new member that was invited into their house. That's what I was trying to make public when I wrote that post at the Google Group. After I did the post and I had to reply in bad maners to someone I decided I didn't wanted to participate anymore in that thread. No sense in arguing and getting hot with fanatics that don't want to see the true... I rather be writing content for my site :D

    I don't need any apologies but I would really like to see a better forum representing DMOZ to the world. By the way, I'm not mad at RZ anymore. It's already written in the past as a bad experience.

    To fix the DMOZ problems would be like doing a tuneup in a car with the difference that there are too many private interest and hiding emotions working againt a rebuild for a new and great DMOZ. It isn't an easy job to straight out so many millions of sites and at the same time cope with all the input of new submitions when the working force is a volunteer one. I give them credit for that.
     
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  7. Papoloko

    Papoloko Peon

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    #27
    I only got beat by one post while answering minstrel :D

    lmocr

    Now I'm lost again. Where is my dictionary? :confused:
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #28
    :confused:

    I don't understand: Did you intend the above to be your excuse for the way you operate?

    lmocr is using the word to refer to what she's doing behind the horse in her avatar...
     
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  9. lmocr

    lmocr Peon

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    #29
    Here you go Papoloko:

    Main Entry: as·i·nine
    Pronunciation: 'a-s&n-"In
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Latin asininus, from asinus ass
    1 : marked by inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment <an asinine excuse>
    2 : of, relating to, or resembling an ass

    And if you look up the definition for the last word in #2 - there's a picture of Minstrel :p
     
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #30
    Always the master of the witty repartee, lmocr. :D
     
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  11. Papoloko

    Papoloko Peon

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    #31
    Wow, that's what I call top editor service !!!

    Did minstrel had the right idea when he referred to your avatar? :confused:

    Too much... I'm going back to school before I post again. You are too much for me. I want to be like you guys when I grow up :D

    Enjoy yourself. Good night. :)
     
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  12. crossman

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    #32
    Well I don't really see much difference between becoming low, angry, etc off a response from a forum.. (not the specific emotions, but instead a negative emotion rising off a response from a forum... but heh that me

    I guess if you feel it backups the original poster. I didn't feel like reading the original poster's post since I read so many similar ones on this forum. I just went to check the replies.

    Nope, the thread itself is not about feeling low, I just felt like making a comment on what I seen in your post.
     
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  13. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #33

    I dunno Minstrel. :cool:
     
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  14. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #34
    You think Aaron is gruntled, noppid? :confused:
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #35
    I'm asking for an opinion based on his words. He don't sound happy to me. But I'm not making the call.
     
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    #36
    I dunno... Aaron seems like a pretty happy guy to me... even his avatar say's he's a Sexy Bitch, I doubt he'd let a stupid little thing like a DMOZ description get him down. :D
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #37
    Maybe it's the coffee, but here's the irony I see...

    In his first post. "It [a DMOZ Listing] is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar from essential in any means."

    In the second. " Not exactly what I want in the SERPS."

    Um er, if the dmoz listing is not important, even the best description wouldn't help. But, it certainly can't hurt!

    I can see why some editors get frustrated. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't. Go figure! :/
     
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  18. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    #38
    As he mentioned, he didn't submit the site himself. Someone else did. If someone's site is submitted, it should at least have a description s/he's OK with, wouldn't you agree? If it's an SE, someone can use robots.txt to exclude themselves from being indexed by a particular bot (in most cases). But anyone can submit a site to dmoz and without the owner's consent. Another big failing in dmoz. Someone can spam a submission of a competitor's site... or submit one the competitor's website with a rubbish description.

    Frankly, dmoz needs to catch up the times and improve its submission system. There are easy ways to verify if someone is a site-owner. If people created an account and then submitted their site it would make it a lot easier to submit amendments, for people to know the progress of their site's submission. And dmoz editors could still remain faceless.. er, I meant anonymous, of course.

    But this would be a too nice and helpful feature to be added to dmoz. It would also make it harder for their to be corruption. So yeah, a bad idea (!).

    Oh do please come along with your dmoz Canned Responses (tm). I hear there's a special offer on at WalMart, Tesco, Asda, Neto, et al.; 10 cans for the price of 1.
     
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  19. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #39
    It doesn't matter what description is submitted since it will probably be edited by DMOZ anyway.

    As for someone else submitting the site, even that doesn't make a difference - DMOZ has stated before that they consider they own the listing and the description and once they list the site they won't remove it -- even at the request of the site owner -- unless it goes dead or DMOZ chooses to delist it.
     
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  20. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    #40
    :rolleyes: The Open really fits (!). Just yet another reason why ODP should be C[losed]DP or F[ree]DP instead.
     
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